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Looking to make a low-powered server just to host files on and stream video with. Will be using Linux (Ubuntu maybe? Will be command-line only regardless). The only reason I ask here is because I'm unsure of quality PSUs and parts this low-wattage.
I have some 240-pin ram, but im willing to buy some laptop memory if needed.
Budget would be maybe around $300.
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You need something like this:
*motherboard: a mini-ITX Atom board
*CPU: Atom dual core - 330, 510 or 525; despite the bad press, a server powered by this processor can cope with 2-3 HD streams; also buying something more powerful than an Atom will probably throw you over the power budget
*RAM: depends on the board weather it is DDR2/3/SODIMM; 1GB is minimum, 2GB would be better especially when streaming HD content
*PSU: you can get away with using a 150-200W PSU, but the efficiency is bad. Half the power consumption can amount to losses in the PSU because the load is below 20% of the rated power. A DC/DC pico-itx PSU and a 65W laptop charger would be the most efficient solution.

...you may find useful a blog post I've written about my server (click below my avatar on the link). It's about the build, parts and a few thoughts which is the right PSU when the computer consumes ~40W.
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Thats pretty much what I was looking for, but was hoping for links ;p

So I'm guessing something like this: http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-80 ?
Though, how would I power more hard drives when I get more?
And how would this be? http://www.logicsupply.com/products/nc96fl_510

btw looked at your blog, couldn't agree more.
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+1 for Dragomp
Looks like a good solution...I tried it with the d510 Nm10 itx board from Asus,
and I got som descent results...
And if yor project funding allows it, buy one of those small UPS thingy's...you could power this puppy like forever..

If you plan on using several drives, get a small,power efficient PSU...
This board has "only" 4 sata connectors, so maybe a RAID card is in order?
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Well adding some green hard drives couldn't be more than 5-7W more per drive, about 4 drives would be only 20W extra.. so maybe upgrading to the 120W here?
http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.417/.f

Cause the hard drives are an upgrade path option. Would still be horribly inefficient before and after the upgrades..

But thanks for the heads up on the low amount of sata connectors..its hard to find good informative websites while shopping for these. Does the one you have have 6 slots?
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Originally Posted by shadman View Post
But thanks for the heads up on the low amount of sata connectors..its hard to find good informative websites while shopping for these. Does the one you have have 6 slots?
Nope my card only has 2 sata, but I used a RAID card with 4 ports extra...
Maybe you should get one of those wattage meters to check how much the NAS really use,
before you start cramming a lot of drives on the small itx picoPSU...(There's a reason for not being 6 sata connectors on it...)
    
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Originally Posted by shadman View Post
Well adding some green hard drives couldn't be more than 5-7W more per drive, about 4 drives would be only 20W extra.. so maybe upgrading to the 120W here?
http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.417/.f

Cause the hard drives are an upgrade path option. Would still be horribly inefficient before and after the upgrades..

But thanks for the heads up on the low amount of sata connectors..its hard to find good informative websites while shopping for these. Does the one you have have 6 slots?
The problem with the 120W PicoPSU is that you'll need a 120W power brick, which are a bit more expensive than 90W bricks. And I don' think you're gonna need it.
Say the board+cpu+ram takes 20W, inside 80W you have easily the power for 6HDDs (~36W on load). You could buy splitters to power the disks, fortunately I had them laying around in the basement.
About the motherboard, I haven't found any Atom board (except for some ION based) that support more than 4 SATA ports. A PCI SATA card is your best solution. If you decide on this route something based on SIL3114(6) or VIA VT6421 are good controllers, SIL even supports RAID5, while VIA supports one IDE port.

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EDIT: Pico-atx PSUs don't follow the same efficiency curve as an ATX PSU, becasue they're simply DC-DC converters. Their efficiency is constant over 90% no matter the load, so oversizing wouldn't be a problem (except from a cost standpoint).
Edited by dragosmp - 1/4/11 at 4:26am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dragosmp View Post
Say the board+cpu+ram takes 20W, inside 80W you have easily the power for 6HDDs (~36W on load).
Question, have you tried this? I know HDDs don't use much power during actual operation but how about during spin-up/boot? Even green drives can use up 20W each then. Staggered spin-up maybe?
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AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-688-_-Product - $56
ASUS M4A87TD EVO - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131406 - $89

Those 2 above, a couple of sticks of value RAM and an efficient PSU should be really low powered. Add in some green lower RPM HDD of your choice and your golden.

I love the CPU and MOBO combo above as its TDP is around 65W (I think there may even be an "E" version which has a TDP of 45W) but more importantly it has 6 x SATA ports. Scaleability is the one thing you don't want to overlook.
Edited by Hillskill - 1/4/11 at 9:41am
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Another vote for the AMD build - for most tasks a Sempron 145 + AMD 740 board is faster and easier to expand than an Atom board for the same money and idles at similar power. Most Atom boards also have crap NICs and too few SATA ports, and add-in cards add to the power draw (by 5-15W) - so avoid RAID cards etc.

Staggered spin-up is a bit of a lottery with consumer boards & psus though - some support it, others don't, and finding out which is nigh-on impossible. I know the Intel chipsets support it, but many boards and psus don't. No idea about AMD or NVidia chipsets though.
Edited by the_beast - 1/4/11 at 10:20am
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