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I hate DRM. It always limits and puts the mass base of legit people under constant BS while it takes the hackers 10 extra minutes to get by it.

Anways, Assasin's Creed DRM is really annoying, however my computer is always hooked up to the internet so no problems here.
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Still a FAIL.
Entirely FAIL.

People that want to avoid the DRM will apply the approprate patched and go pirate style.

Other people will have real problems in a world where "unlimited" internet has disappeared, with all of the throttling, capping, and deep packet inspecting that many of us have been complaining about. I don't know if any game that is not "online" (like multiplayer or whatever) is worth blowing the cap, or being tripped up on spotty internet connections, or whatever.

I think the whole idea of "phone home ET" is reprehensible because it penalizes the law abiding citizen who actually pays for the game - while it represents only a minor challenge to the pirates who don't bother paying.

But then, at least it is no longer "constant", just a small inconvenience and time waster at bootup, so long as it isn't walloping megs of data in the process.
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1. Not like they force you to buy from them? IF you want to play Just Cause 2 or Modern Warfare 2, you have zero choice but to use Steam.

That's the developers choice. Don't blame Valve.

2. I can also keep everything up to date, in fact, if a patch is 2GB in size, contains 100% multiplayer fixes, and I just want to play single player. Without Steam I can forgo the patch for a time and still ply Singleplayer. Steam does not allow you to do this and makes you wait until the updates are done. On a 2Mbps connection this is annoying and invasive. Invasive because that decision is made for me.

In the properties of each game you can set the game never to update automatically. It won't even ask you unless you check the game for updates manually

3. I shouldn't have to be online at all to play my games, whether that's on first load or not. If I have activated a game on Steam then the whole ensuring it's a unique copy thing is done there and then, why do I have to be online?

You shouldn't have to. But it is a decent way to combat piracy. At least steam gives you the option to play offline after logging in once. But then you'll need to log back in online whenever you want to buy a game on Steam, activate the game, and go back into offline mode.

4. Once a game is activated on Steam it's final. Which makes sense for digital games bought over the Store, but retail games or games like UT3 should not be this way.

Again, blame the developer for their choice of SecuROM. At least EA have removed it from most of the games on the steam store, save the crysis games.

Yeah, Steam works for you. But for one, stop getting pissy because someone doesn't like it as much as you and two, accept that different people have difference expectations. Valve do not need your defense.
I'm betting it's all because of your internet connection. If you had a decent service, these things would not matter to you, as they do not matter to me.

Steam has benefits. Friends, Achievements, Communities, Groups, Voice Chat, Clans, and so on.

Name ONE other "always online" (which I do not consider steam to be, by the way) form of DRM that has ALL of these features.

As a side note, I consider GFWL is the worst form of online DRM simply because it wants to turn your computer into a damned xbox. The features are mediocre, it's unnecessarily annoying, takes forever to setup, is buggy, bloated, and makes annoying noises.
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As a side note, I consider GFWL is the worst form of online DRM simply because it wants to turn your computer into a damned xbox. The features are mediocre, it's unnecessarily annoying, takes forever to setup, is buggy, bloated, and makes annoying noises.
I feel the same about this. So much work, just to play a dam game. I though having to install a game before you play it sucked. At least the game was free, got it with my GTX460.
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Steam has benefits. Friends, Achievements, Communities, Groups, Voice Chat, Clans, and so on...

...I consider GFWL is the worst form of online DRM simply because it wants to turn your computer into a damned xbox. The features are mediocre, it's unnecessarily annoying, takes forever to setup, is buggy, bloated, and makes annoying noises.
The irony is strong within you. So you don't want your computer turned into an xbox but you like all the features of Steam that make your computer like an xbox?

Steam does obviously have positives, however those "benefits" that you list are equally considered to be a pointless, frivolous waste of time by others.
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I was wondering why I could still play Assassins Creed 2 over Steam the other night when I lost my internet connection.
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Unrelated to Ubisoft, but related to the topic of requiring an Internet connection just to load/play a game that otherwise should not need an Internet to play...

For the past THREE weeks now, I have not had any Internet, or Telephone, while at home.

Only times I have access to either, are for a few hours during the weekdays when I'm at work in my office, and my net connection here is limited, and can't play games of course while at work.

On Tuesday, December 14th, Comcast accidentally cut off my Services. Since then, they have had two Techs who refuse to fix the problems and claim that I need new wires installed inside my walls, and claim that it is my Property Managers responsibility.

My Property Manager however, claims that is a load of crap, and that the problem is Comcast's responsibility, saying that Comcast put the wires there in the first place, Comcast owns the wires, so it is Comcast's responsibility to just, replace them, if they need to be replaced...

In the mean time, I have since received, TWO games for Christmas that I had been anxious to play, only to learn that I have to have an Internet connection just to fracking install them!! One of them required Steam and I am sitting there thinking... "*** to I have to down load this crap for, and why can't it install off the ******* DVD?!"

The other, Star Craft II, I found an "Offline Activation" code that let me install it, but I still can't PLAY it, without it requiring some sort of Net Connection to run some self-patcher software crap...

I don't care about being online when I play, I just wanna play the ******* game!

So for three weeks, I got these new games sitting on a shelf and I can't do a damned thing with them!

I wish more Game companies out there would quit with this "required net connection" stupidity...
     
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Dont care really, never buying another Ubisoft product, especially for PC. Got Conviction, and i can't get it working at all. I can play with random people but not those i want to play with. .
    
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2. I can also keep everything up to date, in fact, if a patch is 2GB in size, contains 100% multiplayer fixes, and I just want to play single player. Without Steam I can forgo the patch for a time and still paly Singleplayer. Steam does not allow you to do this and makes you wait until the updates are done. On a 2Mbps connection this is annoying and invasive. Invasive because that decision is made for me.
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In the properties of each game you can set the game never to update automatically. It won't even ask you unless you check the game for updates manually
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're still required to patch the game before you can play it, regardless if you have automatic updating turned off.


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I'm betting it's all because of your internet connection. If you had a decent service, these things would not matter to you, as they do not matter to me.
I don't think you understand the whole point of humanity in that everyone is different. Not everyone likes to have the same things forced on them as you do.

Just to be clear, I love Steam. Not everyone does though, and it's not your duty to 'convert' them.
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Well damn it! I wanted to get Settlers 7 on Steam during the sale too and now this happens 2 days after! lol Guess I'll just have to wait until the next sale.
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