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Poll Results: What to get for a Gaming PC build within the next month or so?

 
  • 29% (14)
    High-end X58, Core i7 950 system (GTX 580)
  • 36% (17)
    Mainstream Sandy Bridge P67, i7-2600K System (GTX 580)
  • 34% (16)
    Neither (wait for SB 2011?)
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post #1 of 28
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I will be building a gaming computer for a friend I work with in the coming month or two. Before now, he was dead set on getting an x58 based system with an i7 950. However, with the release of sandy bridge, I am not sure what the best route would be. Stick with the game plan and get an X58 board, i7 950, and tripple channel ram; or go with a sandy bridge i7 2600k and more "mainstream" dual channel ram and P67 motherboard.

He is coming from an old P4 based system, so he basically is starting from scratch. He wants the best gaming performance that he can get right now for a reasonable price. He also is willing to go a little overkill on hardware so he can stay as futureproof as possible.

The x58 i7 system is the enthusiast setup, and it allows for more PCIe bandwidth. He likes the idea of having mulitple graphics cards. His current plan is to go with a GTX 580, and then get a second one a year or so down the road when prices drop. It looks like an 1155 based sandy bridge setup would limit the PCI express lanes available, and each card would have to run in 8x mode if he went with SLI. X58 would still allow him to run both cards at 16x. However, based on my reading today, it appears that sandy bridge is basically faster then anything out there right now.

If he went with sandy bridge now, would he regret it later that he has "mainstream" hardware instead of "enthusiast" hardware. For someone thinking of running multiple graphics cards, I would think that X58 would still be more desirable. But I'm not sure how "future proof" it would be at this point. I know that the replacement for X58 is supposed to be coming out late this year. However, he is in dire need of a new system and really doesn't want to wait any longer then he has to. I appreciate your input. thanks.
    
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post #2 of 28
There is no answer here. Both are good options. If he only upgrades every 4-7 years (you said he had a p4), then you should get the best and cheapest parts now. I would go with the 1366 950. Because there is very little chance he would upgrade the cpu down the road. Sandy is a good chip, but will come with a higher cost then 1366, when they start to ship them, you will see the 950 prices drop.

If he was willing to slowly upgrade over time, then sandy would be a good option. But is really for those that are willing to chase the technology. IF you are not willing to upgrade every 3 months I doubt you will get that much out of sandy.

Bottom line, build out both systems. What ever is the cheapest, buy. The performance difference will be very small when compared over 4 years. Sandy will be new tech, which means it will be buggy and will have to do a lot of driver chasing. 1366 is more mature, but is officially shelved.
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post #3 of 28
as the reviews show the i5, i7 sandybridge really should not be overlooked and he will get much more bang for his buck with a sb p67 system, that will still be strong in games for years to come.

Why buy a dying 1366 socket, they are only marginaly cheaper, he can still utilize 4X gpu's on a MSI sandy bridge p67 mobo if he wanted too. please forget about x8 pci, unless he seriously wants to bench this rig then there is no noticable difference.

either way coming from a p4 system it will f"^£n fly!!! But there's alot more to sandy bridge then just it's speed, Power consumption is also alot less, Heat etc.
Edited by Chewy - 1/3/11 at 12:11pm
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post #4 of 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
as the reviews show the i5, i7 sandybridge really shouldnt be overlooked and he will get much more bang for his buck with a sb p67 system, that will still be strong in games for years to come.
Take any given motherboard, how many revisions are there? The board I have is like 10 months old and has 2 revisions with a 3rd on the way. The first boards for sandy are going to be revisions with in a few months, not worth chasing a new system, if he does not want to. If he was willing to stay with the p4 system, it is clear that he does not chase the latest.
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Originally Posted by RiverOfIce View Post
Take any given motherboard, how many revisions are there? The board I have is like 10 months old and has 2 revisions with a 3rd on the way. The first boards for sandy are going to be revisions with in a few months, not worth chasing a new system, if he does not want to. If he was willing to stay with the p4 system, it is clear that he does not chase the latest.
And for gaming, an i7-950 or a 2600K is overkill anyway. No game now or in the near future would be slowed by a 1366 system.
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amd pII x4 build with good gpu
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post #7 of 28
Quote:
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And for gaming, an i7-950 or a 2600K is overkill anyway. No game now or in the near future would be slowed by a 1366 system.
Except FSX
    
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post #8 of 28
For new rigs, it's hard to to choose 1366 over SB at the moment, especially for the price.

He can get a 2500k $217 + Mobo $150 + 4 GB Ram $50 as a base system, and that is cheaper than 1366, plus he'll be overclocking a lot higher on Air. ( 4.5+ )

Where as the 950 would be ( 950 $300 + $200 Mobo ( easily ) + $RAM 100+ )

Plus, SB will support some IB Quad processors as well, where as the 1366 is a dying socket.

Plus, go with a 570 over a 580, and save an additional $150, and just overclock it.
Edited by 2010rig - 1/3/11 at 12:17pm
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post #9 of 28
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Thanks for the replies.

He definately isn't a system chaser. He likes to get the best he can afford at the time, and then use as long as possible. His current P4 system is over 5 years old! He only recently upgraded the graphics from a 6800 series card to a 9800GT after I pointed out to him that 9800GTs were selling for less then $100. And really, that was just a band aid to get him by until the new year.

He is definately not the type of person to continuously upgrade a system. He is having me build it for him because he is uncomfortable with building the computers himself. This will actually be his first computer that wasn't ordered pre-configured (his current system is an alienware from 2005). I'm not sure if he will be willing to wait until Q4 when the socket 2011 stuff comes out. I'm sure the 2011 stuff will be at a price premium, just like the X58 stuff was.
    
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post #10 of 28
What are the benefits of buying a shelved socket? when for litterally the same price he could buy new tech with more benefits?

Its a no brainer
Edited by Chewy - 1/3/11 at 12:17pm
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