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Poll Results: What to get for a Gaming PC build within the next month or so?

 
  • 29% (14)
    High-end X58, Core i7 950 system (GTX 580)
  • 36% (17)
    Mainstream Sandy Bridge P67, i7-2600K System (GTX 580)
  • 34% (16)
    Neither (wait for SB 2011?)
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post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post
For new rigs, it's hard to to choose 1366 over SB at the moment, especially for the price.

He can get a 2500k $217 + Mobo $150 + 4 GB Ram $50 as a base system, and that is cheaper than 1366, plus he'll be overclocking a lot higher on Air. ( 4.5+ )

Where as the 950 would be ( 950 $300 + $200 Mobo ( easily ) + $RAM 100+ )
Dude. You can grab a 950 for $200 at Microcenter. And most Nehalem boards can run dual-channel RAM anyway.
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post #12 of 28
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Originally Posted by Chewy View Post
What are the benefits of buying a shelved socket? when for litterally the same price he could buy new tech with more benefits?

Its a no brainer
Once again, maturity. Take my board. They released rev 1, which was a quick slap together, only to release rev 2 about 3 months later. Which offers soo much more in terms of features and head room.

If you buy sandy now, you are buying a new system, that will have growing pains. Given that it is new all the bugs and system failures might not be worked out yet. If you chase technology, like you do, it really does not matter because 3 months later you sale the old and get the new. What does not perform is quickly turned over.

But for him, what ever he gets he is stuck with, so he can try new unproven technology, or tried and true mature stuff.

Personally, I would wait until the sandybridges are out and consuming the 1366 parts, get what I could get for as cheap as possible.

The parts are known. Drivers are mature. Issues are either well documented or explored. He will have a solid machine that will last him the next few years.

If it was for a person that worked on his own system, I would say sandy, but for a guys that is too afraid to set a cpu, mature is good.
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post #13 of 28
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Originally Posted by RiverOfIce View Post
Take any given motherboard, how many revisions are there? The board I have is like 10 months old and has 2 revisions with a 3rd on the way. The first boards for sandy are going to be revisions with in a few months, not worth chasing a new system, if he does not want to. If he was willing to stay with the p4 system, it is clear that he does not chase the latest.
why would he care about the revisions if he does not chase new tech.??

buy the newest now and be happy with it for years to come
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post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by Skripka View Post
Dude. You can grab a 950 for $200 at Microcenter. And most Nehalem boards can run dual-channel RAM anyway.
I know, but does the OP and his friend live near a Microcenter? Not everybody does.

I personally wouldn't overlook the fact that the 2500k will overclock to 4.5+ on AIR, and LGA 1155 actually has some upgrade life and will support some IB processors, where as the 1366 socket will be killed off in a year. Plus, the best you can hope for on air is 4.2 with the 950.

I still stick by my original statement for new rigs, SB is hard to overlook. The performance looks solid, and this coming from a current 1366 owner.

And I'll say it again, go with a 570 over a 580 and save some extra cash.
Edited by 2010rig - 1/3/11 at 12:38pm
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post #15 of 28
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Originally Posted by RiverOfIce View Post
Once again, maturity. Take my board. They released rev 1, which was a quick slap together, only to release rev 2 about 3 months later. Which offers soo much more in terms of features and head room.

If you buy sandy now, you are buying a new system, that will have growing pains. Given that it is new all the bugs and system failures might not be worked out yet. If you chase technology, like you do, it really does not matter because 3 months later you sale the old and get the new. What does not perform is quickly turned over.

But for him, what ever he gets he is stuck with, so he can try new unproven technology, or tried and true mature stuff.

Personally, I would wait until the sandybridges are out and consuming the 1366 parts, get what I could get for as cheap as possible.

The parts are known. Drivers are mature. Issues are either well documented or explored. He will have a solid machine that will last him the next few years.

If it was for a person that worked on his own system, I would say sandy, but for a guys that is too afraid to set a cpu, mature is good.


I see your point but if everyone took this advise then we would always be in fear of moving onto new things. why don't i stick with my old trusty 775. I dont chase new tech take a look at my sig rig

Your point applies to people consious with new tech in mind, we dont stumble to go out and buy the newest and greatest of anything in fear of something better being just around the corner. Infact i bet most sb cpu's mobo will be sold out soon after release. Its only the people waiting for better new tech that actually care.
Edited by Chewy - 1/3/11 at 12:36pm
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post #16 of 28
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why would he care about the revisions if he does not chase new tech.??

buy the newest now and be happy with it for years to come
We are going to have to agree to disagree.

But I well say I would rather have a feature rich motherboard that is mature and has competed in a rather dynamic field forcing more and more features on to a board. THEN... get what ever the manufacture deems worthy of shoving out the door just to claim first out.

But you make a very good point.

So it comes down to one question.

For a pc that probably going to be used for 4-5 years (very little or no upgrades).

New and unproven

OR

Old and proven.

Your choice. As I said before there is no good answer.
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post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by RiverOfIce View Post
We are going to have to agree to disagree.

But I well say I would rather have a feature rich motherboard that is mature and has competed in a rather dynamic field forcing more and more features on to a board. THEN... get what ever the manufacture deems worthy of shoving out the door just to claim first out.

But you make a very good point.

So it comes down to one question.

For a pc that probably going to be used for 4-5 years (very little or no upgrades).

New and unproven

OR

Old and proven.

Your choice. As I said before there is no good answer.
you see i could have said all of the above when 1366 was being released over 775, I do agree to a point and if i took your advice i never would have got a 1366 and i would of gone out and bought and (old trusty) 775 and completely missed out on the epic 1366 that was to come.


I am in his shoes and for me 1366 is tempting but i cannot see a few revisions holding me back over 1155, heck if it goes wrong there's rma.
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post #18 of 28
I say go for the Sandy Bridge 2600k.

What's the dude's budget?
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post #19 of 28
Get Phenom II x6,8gb or ram, samsung spinpoint F4 Hard Drive and two HD 6950's and unlock them into 6970's I prefer XFX
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post #20 of 28
If he doesn't need the system right away, I'd recommend waiting until Bulldozer benchmarks are out. Even if Bulldozer doesn't perform better than Sandy Bridge, at least most of the kinks with SB should be ironed out by then.

I wouldn't really suggest going with Bloomfield anymore particularly if he plans to keep the system for a long time. I know there's no such thing as future proofing but the performance gain on SB should make it just a bit longer lasting than Nehalem at the same price point or lower.

Sandy Bridge-E or Ivy Bridge is quite a long time to wait in my opinion. For people already on AM3, LGA-1156, LGA-1366 or even LGA-775 (Core 2), the wait is worth it. Heck, they can probably afford to wait until Haswell/Rockwell. Your friend's P4, though? That's like prolonging the agony.
Edited by rui-no-onna - 1/3/11 at 1:25pm
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