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It's been about 2 years since Seven has been released, I don't exactly think we need W8 yet...
if it's out later next year that would be about right.
    
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Windows 7 RTM was signed off on July 13th 2009 and hit retail in October of that year.Full-time work on Windows 8 would have then already began.

Microsoft usually leave around 3 years between Windows releases before shipping the successor, so from 2009 to this year that's already just shy of 2 years of planning and part development.

Windows 8 is not expected to ship until late 2012 so yes it's plenty of time, and by then we will be wanting it.
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Win8 would be cool, but it's too early. Besides when it's ready they'll release a beta to the public (I wish Apple did the same for MacOS instead of doing it just for devs).

On regards to the best OS, 2K is definitely the best. Those game machines in the pubs run 2K and at least 2K was the first OS to not BSoD every 2 hours.
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Many people are forgetting that Microsoft's distribution model for Windows.

They don't sell boxes of Windows to individuals. They sell the vast majority in the form of licenses to computer manufacturers.

So, you will all "buy" windows 8, as it will probably come with your new laptop.
That's all MS have to care about, speaking in terms of increasing net income.
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I guess most of you weren't born or remember how horribly XP was received and how bad everyone thought it was until much after SP1.

I was an early adopter of XP and liked it. I have no issues with my Vista 64 Ultimate either.

XP caused far more horror to computer users than Vista. Vista just never got rid of the bad reputation.

Anyone remember how many people's systems got hosed from XP SP1?

I guess not. You're probably all teenagers.
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I guess most of you weren't born or remember how horribly XP was received and how bad everyone thought it was until much after SP1.

I was an early adopter of XP and liked it. I have no issues with my Vista 64 Ultimate either.

XP caused far more horror to computer users than Vista. Vista just never got rid of the bad reputation.

Anyone remember how many people's systems got hosed from XP SP1?

I guess not. You're probably all teenagers.
I think Vista's "extinction" is due to the fact that 7 was released so quickly (~1.5 years) after it. It's no longer in stores and no longer on any retail PCs. All those that felt Vista was so horrible had the opportunity to immediately leap to 7 and didn't bother to look back. IMO it may be a money-making scheme, excuse my conspiracy approach.
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post #87 of 98
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I think Vista's "extinction" is due to the fact that 7 was released so quickly (~1.5 years) after it. It's no longer in stores and no longer on any retail PCs. All those that felt Vista was so horrible had the opportunity to immediately leap to 7 and didn't bother to look back. IMO it may be a money-making scheme, excuse my conspiracy approach.
Vista initially had too high of a requirement for the average system when it was released... causing a lot of people to be justifiably frustrated with it. Sure, there was the file transfer issue fixed after SP1 and UAC... but I've never had any issues with Vista Ultimate on my sig system since I made it 3 years ago. And I was running with the same installation for that 3+ years until my motherboard died. Uptime of 30-45 days was pretty much the norm for me... sometimes ending with a crash, but usually was due to needing a restart from updates or drivers.

For me, Vista has been more user-friendly and stable than XP was by a noticeable margin. Then again, I would still be using W2K if they had continued updating it. W2K was amazing for it's time.

Windows 3.1 was for playing sims... other than and web surfing, most applications were still DOS based, so you only loaded windows when absolutely necessary. Windows didn't become a 24/7 OS until 95.
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Wouldn't this cause OS fragmentation which damages app support? Because having all these old OS's doesn't seem good for compatibility and devs wanting to develop for Windows.
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I think Vista's "extinction" is due to the fact that 7 was released so quickly (~1.5 years) after it. It's no longer in stores and no longer on any retail PCs. All those that felt Vista was so horrible had the opportunity to immediately leap to 7 and didn't bother to look back. IMO it may be a money-making scheme, excuse my conspiracy approach.
Win7 is only a minor update to Win Vista, you can see it in two things: The kernel version (Vista = 6.0, 7 = 6.1 iirc) and the drivers being compatible between the two.

Considering Microsoft tested reactions to Vista under a different name ([url=http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mojave-experiment/]Mojave Experiment]), I'm pretty sure they knew Win7 just really had to have some minor updates and better marketing to be successful.
    
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Win7 is only a minor update to Win Vista, you can see it in two things: The kernel version (Vista = 6.0, 7 = 6.1 iirc) and the drivers being compatible between the two.

Considering Microsoft tested reactions to Vista under a different name ([url=http://www.microsoft.com/windows/mojave-experiment/]Mojave Experiment]), I'm pretty sure they knew Win7 just really had to have some minor updates and better marketing to be successful.
Windows 7 was built directly off Server 2008 SP1's codebase, however the Kernel version of 6.1 isn't a sign of it being treated as a minor version of Windows nor does it reflect upon that.

After Windows Vista's development the Windows division went under a radical number of changes, more so to with the way in which Windows itself is developed. At the time of Longhorn and Vista's development it was Jim Allchin who was in charge of the Windows teams, he retired shortly after Vista hit RTM.

Since then it has been Steven Sinofsky who has been appointed president of Microsoft's Windows division, after being head of the Office team for some time. Sinofsky has been the one putting forward these new changes, and has a much different approach on overall development of Windows. Microsoft no longer refer to Windows as "Major or "Minor" versions, but class them as "Releases" and thus aren't jumping each NT Kernel version number by 9 or 10 each time. For example, Windows 8's NT Kernel version will be 6.2, and evidence of this has already been spotted in various pre-M2 build strings:

6.2.7901.0.101210-1755
6.2.7902.0.101213-1745
6.2.7903.0.101215-2325
6.2.7904.0.101216-1845
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