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LimeWire wants third-party services—starting with Amazon—to fork over their documentation related to the RIAA. This includes royalty payments, accounting data, and internal communications within Amazon about the music labels. Amazon has, so far, refused to do so, arguing that the record labels should have sufficient documentation to give to the courts. LimeWire's lawyers aren't buying that argument.
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Bit interesting for those of you who have been watching the LimeWire vs. RIAA court battle.
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Interesting. I thought this was all over and that Limewire lost and was done.
    
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The RIAA told Ars that "billions and billions of illegal downloads" had occurred under LimeWire's care
So if the RIAAs typical $80,000 a song is placed here * Billions and billions = Place massive number here then laugh.
Note that there was in 2009 8.3 trillion USD in the world.
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i'm just going to post this image here to illustrate the ludicrous power that RIAA has
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i'm just going to post this image here to illustrate the ludicrous power that RIAA has
That image makes you wonder why people take the RIAA seriously anymore. I'd understand if they said "Hey! You downloaded 40 $0.99 songs! Give us our $39.60!" But instead it's "Hey! You downloaded a 10 song album that came out in 1991 and was valued at $9.99 then! Give us $800,000!"
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[QUOTE=cogsworth;11881045]That image makes you wonder why people take the RIAA seriously anymore. I'd understand if they said "Hey! You downloaded 40 $0.99 songs! Give us our $39.60!" QUOTE]

I never understood that argument.
It isn't as if when you steal from a bank you can just give the money back and say "my bad".

Now, I am not going down the argument about stealing vs. sharing. I am just commenting about the penalty "if" there is agreement that you took something that doesn't belong to you.
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I never understood that argument.
It isn't as if when you steal from a bank you can just give the money back and say "my bad".

Now, I am not going down the argument about stealing vs. sharing. I am just commenting about the penalty "if" there is agreement that you took something that doesn't belong to you.
I was just using the two extremes, minimum of what its valued to the consumer, and then what the RIAA is saying its worth. Honestly, if I was the RIAA or anyone, I wouldn't be asking for the actual value, I'd be asking for damages, legal costs, etc. I wouldn't be asking for $80,000 USD per song though. Thats just wrong in my opinion. Maybe if they asked something like $10 per song, thats more reasonable. I just don't think that their "monetary" value of a song is anywhere close to being correct.
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[quote=gooddog;11881096]
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That image makes you wonder why people take the RIAA seriously anymore. I'd understand if they said "Hey! You downloaded 40 $0.99 songs! Give us our $39.60!" QUOTE]

I never understood that argument.
It isn't as if when you steal from a bank you can just give the money back and say "my bad".

Now, I am not going down the argument about stealing vs. sharing. I am just commenting about the penalty "if" there is agreement that you took something that doesn't belong to you.
Smack on a reasonable fine, and be done with it. Single moms with 8 kids are not going to pay out 1 million dollars. I guarantee if they made everyone pay ($100 + court costs, if people appeal), who pirated, people would pirate less, instead of taking a single person to court for insane amounts of money.
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[quote=gooddog;11881096]
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That image makes you wonder why people take the RIAA seriously anymore. I'd understand if they said "Hey! You downloaded 40 $0.99 songs! Give us our $39.60!" QUOTE]

I never understood that argument.
It isn't as if when you steal from a bank you can just give the money back and say "my bad".

Now, I am not going down the argument about stealing vs. sharing. I am just commenting about the penalty "if" there is agreement that you took something that doesn't belong to you.

The problem with the RIAA is that they're seeking damages way in excess of what is fair. They should be seeking no more than the piddly few grand they offer as settlements. None of this "12 songs = 1.2 million" BS.
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i'm just going to post this image here to illustrate the ludicrous power that RIAA has
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