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I figured I'd chime in since I use all 3 major platforms.
(*nix at work, mac laptop, windows PC)

My linux box at work is constantly being updated, and regularly pulls down nearly a GB of data every time it updates. Usually once a week. The kernel itself has hit nearly 100MB and that updates almost weekly now (more if you're getting one of those nightly patches obviously). Add in other basic system software and the updates bloat to 400-500MB.

The only difference this is from what Apple is doing is the time delay. The linux updates are nearly daily and spread thin, while Apple does all of theirs in one big package probably due to testing time. Linux has the availability of 10,000 coders testing 10,000 patches at a given time. Apple, I'm pretty sure does not have that.

The biggest cause of all computer problems exists between the seating surface and keyboard.
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Originally Posted by MacA;11888052 
Agreed, as soon as OSX gets truly popular (if it ever does), viruses will get more and more common. However, it seems that OSX's very architecture is better at preventing virus from installing than Windows'.

Wrong, you have to label a file as executable still I think and the most that could happen is if some program you want to install sells out for adware companies. (eg. Say, Nero Burning ROM)

The only thing OS X is worse than Windows at (In terms of security) is surviving being hacked.
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Originally Posted by Vinnx;11888286 
I just can't take that article seriously.. an OS is dangerous to use because the patch files are to big and take to long to develop? Safety is determined on what you perceive to be safe, I see OSX as living in a wooden shed in the woods with a bear lurking about and all you've got is an axe, where as Windows is like living in a fortified castle with a army of orcs waiting out side your walls. They called google the most dangerous website....
OS X is more like a fortress with very little in the way of weaponry (It's secure, but there's ways in through 3rd party programs), Windows is a little shed in a forest that has had stuff to make it more secure added on later, but still suffers from a huge vulnerability and Linux is more like a fortress with an average amount of weaponry. (Less 3rd party programs adding in vulnerabilities.)
    
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sorry repost below. chrome lagged =/
Edited by illusive snpr - 1/4/11 at 1:40pm
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One key point is that Snow Leopard still doesn't have ASLR, or address space layout randomization, which randomly arranges the position of key data making it harder for hackers to target for exploits.

Miller said to TechWorld that Apple didn't change the ASLR from 10.5 to 10.6: "Apple didn't change anything. It's the exact same ASLR as in Leopard, which means it's not very good."

Apple didn’t completely missed the chance to tighten up security in Snow Leopard though, as the new QuickTime solves a lot of the issues that Mac OS X had before.

"Apple rewrote a bunch of QuickTime," said Miller, "which was really smart, since it's been the source of lots of bugs in the past."

One thing that Snow Leopard did adapt, which Windows has had since XP SP2, is DEP (data execution prevention). With DEP, buffer overflow attacks are much harder to execute
    
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MAC OS is more secure because no one feels like writing for it. Why would virus writers write for an OS owned by 4% of the computing world? Linux even holds 6%. Windows is owned by 90%. It makes sense though.(those are rough assumptions, thats just what my linux+ and A+ books said). MAC OS does get viruses too. most times you wont even know you have them because the viruses for mac still target windows. They wait for that mac to be used on a windows based network and boom stuff starts to happen. I never get any viruses on windows. although the 4000 users on my company's network would disagree lol.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by turtleslikejohn;11881266 
I don't understand why Apple has to dumb down everything for their customers. It seems like everyone's doing it nowadays.

Its because half the people aren't as smart as the Average Person.wink.gif
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Well I think that it should get smaller (by at least half) cycles... smile.gif

300 megs?
And a mini-AV, (built in of course), running while it is being patched.
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I use all three. MacBook, PC at work, PC and Linux at the house.

Mac isn't the most dangerous OS. Period. It may be because the *nix architecture holds virus coders at bay or because it's minority of users make it a less attractive target, I don't know.

Wins DLL's and architecture are a treasure chest of goodies for malicious code.

There's a reason *nix and Apache is the back bone of the internet.
    
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at least were not the only ones whom have figured it out.
    
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Originally Posted by illusive snpr;11889533 
MAC OS is more secure because no one feels like writing for it. Why would virus writers write for an OS owned by 4% of the computing world? Linux even holds 6%. Windows is owned by 90%. It makes sense though.(those are rough assumptions, thats just what my linux+ and A+ books said). MAC OS does get viruses too. most times you wont even know you have them because the viruses for mac still target windows. They wait for that mac to be used on a windows based network and boom stuff starts to happen. I never get any viruses on windows. although the 4000 users on my company's network would disagree lol.

Mac OS X, by design, has the same thing that stops viruses as Linux.

Here's a hint: chmod +x /files/location/and/name
    
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