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I need to make a Mini-ITX build that will be future proof, and will be able to handle the latest upcoming games on high settings. My Budget is $950, preferably under $850. I need portability since I'll be going to college soon, that's why I went with Mini-ITX. Laptops were too expensive, and the performance/price ratio wasn't the best either.

This is what I came up with so far. I basically need help on whether or not I should keep these parts or change them.

Mini-ITX Rig/Newegg

GPU - Radeon 6850
Mobo - GIGABYTE GA-H55N-USB3
Ram - PNY XLR8 4GB (Do you think this ram will be compatible?)
HDD - Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB
CPU - Intel Core i5-655K 3.2 Ghz (Is it worth buying the unlocked mulitplier?)
Case - Silverstone SG07-B
Heatsink - Cooler Master GeminII S

I was going to go mATX with the NZXT Vulcan, but the case looks like pretty big. I was also going to go with an i5 750 for the same price as the i5 655K, but I saw people on other forums stating that there wouldn't be as much overclocking room with quad-cores, and longevity would be "longer" with dual-cores.

The total came out to be approx. $940.
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answer to to the unlocked multiplier?
no

i would probably pick a better case (not sure if the 6850 will fit)
in college right now and really don't carry case anywhere so making a mitx machine isn't really worth it unless you lan alot

definitely better ram
suggest these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-303-_-Product

other than that looks all good

good luck with college btw!
    
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agree with stupidcha bout the ram, they are good modules, i would go unlocked multi they can get some wicked clocks from them, and if you want portability but still wanted mATX how about this case?


and now that most cpu's are quads more programs(inc. games) utilize the additional cores, opening the gap as far as performance go
Edited by CH4PZ - 1/3/11 at 7:02pm
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ps looove your avatar and goodluck at colledge
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CPU - Intel Core i5-655K 3.2 Ghz (Is it worth buying the unlocked mulitplier?)

I was going to go mATX with the NZXT Vulcan, but the case looks like pretty big. I was also going to go with an i5 750 for the same price as the i5 655K, but I saw people on other forums stating that there wouldn't be as much overclocking room with quad-cores, and longevity would be "longer" with dual-cores.
Despite the lack of overclocking headroom, I'd still opt for the i5-750/760. A lot of apps are actually becoming multi-threaded now, plus you get 4MB more cache and higher memory bandwidth. Either get a $110 Core i3-530/540 or one of the Core i5 quads. Not really worth paying for any of the i5-6xx series.
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Originally Posted by Psychedelic View Post
Mini-ITX Rig/Newegg

GPU - Radeon 6850
Mobo - GIGABYTE GA-H55N-USB3
Ram - PNY XLR8 4GB (Do you think this ram will be compatible?)
HDD - Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB
CPU - Intel Core i5-655K 3.2 Ghz (Is it worth buying the unlocked mulitplier?)
Case - Silverstone SG07-B
Heatsink - Cooler Master GeminII S
GPU - Looks okay. Depending on which resolution you game at, you may even consider a 6870.

CPU - Sandy Bridge will be out in a week. Reviews are already out. You can pretty much kiss overclocking goodbye on ITX unless mobo manufacturers enable it on the H67 chipset, but the performance is better anyways and the Turbo mode even higher, so with mini ITX you won't be missing much. I think ITX boards will be using H67 chipset which is not out yet, but it may be worth the extra wait. Pricing will be roughly comparable to current Core i5. Definitely go with the quad core. If the ITX H67 ends up being overclockable, then you will need a "K" series CPU. Another benefit of Sandy Bridge beyond better performance (up to 20% better!) is lower power draw and lower temperatures. Heck, there are already reports of overclocking a quad core "K" to 4.4GHz using the stock cooler! Proof! Hit the review link and see how absolutely tiny that heatsink is, which got 4.4GHz on a quad core. For those too friggin' lazy to click, the heatsink is literally about 1" tall with an 80mm fan on it. These are perfect for SFF because they run so cool that you don't need big/expensive cooling.

Mobo - gotta wait a couple months for ITX socket 1155 boards. Some are already announced. Asus, ECS and Intel are all known to have pending socket 1155 ITX boards.

RAM - You will want 1.5V RAM. Either 1333MHz or 1600MHz data rate is fine. CAS9 is fine. Basically, make sure you get everything else you want/need before you spend extra on RAM because the $30 extra for super high speed and super low latency stuff can be the difference between your Radeon 6850 and a 6870. Guess which will give you more gaming performance? The 6870 with slower/cheaper RAM will be faster than the 6850 with faster/expensive RAM.

HDD/optical - seems fine.

Arctic Silver 5/Cooler Master GeminII - probably not needed with Sandy Bridge.

Case - Have you considered a Silverstone SG05/SG06? They are available with 300W or 450W PSUs. The SG07 can fit bigger CPU coolers (which you won't need with Sandy Bridge) and bigger graphics cards (which you won't need with a Radeon 6850) and higher wattage (which you won't need with a Radeon 6850). Heck, you can get by with the 300W version. I think Amazon has them starting at around $95 with free shipping and Newegg is around $105 plus shipping.

So, a proposed build (after the motherboards come out) would look something like this:

GPU - Radeon 6850 $200
Motherboard - Asus might be most expensive at $130
CPU - Core i5 2500K $240
CPU cooling - stock $0
Thermal paste - stock $0
RAM - Cheap 4GB DDR3 kit $45
HDD/optical - Samsung 1TB/Samsung slim $100
Case/power - Silverstone SG05 $95

$810 total, plus some shipping

IMO this would be better for the following reasons:
- Cheaper
- Faster
- Uses less power
- Creates less heat (so doesn't require better cooling)

If you want the bigger Silverstone SG07 case for possible larger graphics card, add $105 and still end up cheaper by a bit.
Edited by Zap - 1/3/11 at 9:29pm
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Nice Post Zap. I agree its best to hold off until the Sandy Bridges come out. I recently saw some P67 Micro-ATX boards so P67 Mini-ITX boards can't be far behind. For those who don't know, the P67 boards can use the K version CPUs i.e. the overclockable ones.

The SG05 is a great case. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...63149&Tpk=sg05

The Silverstone case C4PZ was referring to is the SG04-B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-157-_-Product
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Nice Post Zap. I agree its best to hold off until the Sandy Bridges come out. I recently saw some P67 Micro-ATX boards so P67 Mini-ITX boards can't be far behind. For those who don't know, the P67 boards can use the K version CPUs i.e. the overclockable ones.

The SG05 is a great case. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...63149&Tpk=sg05

The Silverstone case C4PZ was referring to is the SG04-B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-157-_-Product
yeh you def want a k if you plan to overclock!!
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Mobo - gotta wait a couple months for ITX socket 1155 boards. Some are already announced. Asus, ECS and Intel are all known to have pending socket 1155 ITX boards.
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I agree its best to hold off until the Sandy Bridges come out. I recently saw some P67 Micro-ATX boards so P67 Mini-ITX boards can't be far behind.
At this point, we don't know if any of the manufacturers will be releasing P67 Mini-ITX motherboards at all. So far, all the M-ITX boards that have been announced use the H67 chipset. By the way, you can add Gigabyte, MSI and Zotac to the list of those releasing LGA-1155 M-ITX boards. It's already been mentioned that Intel will be releasing a new chipset (Z68) for those who want both overclocking and FDI so at this point, I don't think H67 will ever support overclocking.

There are some valid arguments that have been raised though. An i5-2500(K) at stock will probably match or exceed the performance of an i5-760 overclocked. Most M-ITX boards can't deliver the necessary power for hardcore overclocking. Indeed, Anandtech was only able to manage a 3.66GHz overclock on their i7-875K when paired with the GA-H55N-USB3 board.

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Mobo - GIGABYTE GA-H55N-USB3
Heatsink - Cooler Master GeminII S
Didn't notice this earlier. I'm not sure the GeminII S (124 x 118.4 x 62mm) will fit. The CPU socket is too close to the PCIe slot and I think the GeminII S will block it. I use a Scythe Shuriken Rev B SCSK-1100 (105 x 116 x 64 mm) and even that is cutting it too close.

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i have been pretty impressed with my rig, it uses the SG07-W the W is for window which i would pay 20$ more for. It COMES with a 600watt single rail p.s that supports a 5970 i use a 4870x2 in it right now

the sg07 case can hold a 5970 so a 6xxx series card i dont think will be an issue. i love the case. i also considered doing the Vulcan for M-ATX, but that would be for a second rig so i could do my 460gtx/or 6890 SLI

i am clocked @ 4.6ghz without an issue, the only thing i havent done yet to my rig is go to 2x SSD + 2tb samsung f4 drive

the sandybridge i havent seen a itx board for it usually takes 6months or more for them to make a specialized board like that with a new chip, so if you chose to wait you could be waiting a while.

i went with the 655k because it puts less stress on the MB voltage regulators. there are less VRMs on a itx board so going with a quad core AND overclocking would be alot a stress on the board. you MAY not yield as high OC and durability that you would enjoy with dual core. i went 655k because games usually will not use more then two cores anyways , and my oc would compensate for less cores to some degree.

one thing to note is that the 6850/6870 are weaksauce as a single card , they only shine in sli. i would consider a better SINGLE card like a used 465/470/480 or 5870
**alot of coolers will work with the case but NOT the mainboard because the layout
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