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The internet sucks...

I hate how you can just share your opinion so easily.... it's stupid.
I don't get your point here because this isn't the topic at all.
    
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Well I have a couple of things to say about this:

1. We won't go ANYWHERE as a nation, because our "system" is set up on greed. This is why congress talks a big game about how America needs to "surpass" other nations, but yet we have no method of forward progress. Just look at how expensive it is to go to college in America compared to other first world nations. Those other first world nations have a higher percentage of well educated, well off members of society than us.

2. I have seven family members that work for telecommunication companies (from AT&T to Verizon). They've told me how expensive it is to upgrade and maintain an infrastructure. But at the same time my sister at AT&T has told me that "At&T makes $100 million a day from customers whom are paying there at&t bill that is due that day.". But yet, we still have retarded communications when compared to smaller nations (like South Korea), but yet our government pays these companies because?

3. I personally would like to see more competition. But the way this nation is taken hostage by lobbyists and corporations instead of congress, makes it an impossible dream to have variety. i agree, my Verizon FIOS blows my old AT&T DSL out of the water. I'm happy to be paying $99 a month for it (the triple package of satellite TV, home phone & internet). Mathematically speaking, the internet portion of my bill is only $33 for 10Mbps download/3Mbps upload. When my old AT&T was $35 a month for 3Mbps download/718kbs upload.

It's true copper is dying, but I doubt that they'd give the end consumer T2 or T3 lines to compete with fiber optic internet providers (I think it's really only Verizon & Comcast).
     
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Well replacing all ADSL with FTTC/FTTH VDSL services would be a start here.
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Well I have a couple of things to say about this:

1. We won't go ANYWHERE as a nation, because our "system" is set up on greed. This is why congress talks a big game about how America needs to "surpass" other nations, but yet we have no method of forward progress. Just look at how expensive it is to go to college in America compared to other first world nations. Those other first world nations have a higher percentage of well educated, well off members of society than us.
Yeah. Capitalism, getting rewarded for your efforts, is great but in this day and age it doesn't really exist. It's controlled capitalism for the regular guy and pure greed for the Executives. Maybe in the 1920's you could hope to work your way up the ladder but these days its just not possible. Meanwhile executives and CEOs suck at their jobs and STILL get $100 million parachutes. Now when you suck at your job and grind the company you're running into the ground and you STILL get paid $100 million to go away, that's not capitalism.

Also, I think that people are too easily drawn into class warfare. Fox has proven that all you need to do is bombard your viewing audience with constant lies and disinformation and you can have them rally against things that they should normally be FOR.

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2. I have seven family members that work for telecommunication companies (from AT&T to Verizon). They've told me how expensive it is to upgrade and maintain an infrastructure. But at the same time my sister at AT&T has told me that "At&T makes $100 million a day from customers whom are paying there at&t bill that is due that day.". But yet, we still have retarded communications when compared to smaller nations (like South Korea), but yet our government pays these companies because?
There are some graphs that float around on OCN about the cost of maintaining vs general revenue and let me tell you it's not even close. The only thing expensive about it is the 1 time cost to lay down the initial infrastructure.

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3. I personally would like to see more competition. But the way this nation is taken hostage by lobbyists and corporations instead of congress, makes it an impossible dream to have variety. i agree, my Verizon FIOS blows my old AT&T DSL out of the water. I'm happy to be paying $99 a month for it (the triple package of satellite TV, home phone & internet). Mathematically speaking, the internet portion of my bill is only $33 for 10Mbps download/3Mbps upload. When my old AT&T was $35 a month for 3Mbps download/718kbs upload.

It's true copper is dying, but I doubt that they'd give the end consumer T2 or T3 lines to compete with fiber optic internet providers (I think it's really only Verizon & Comcast).
Because of the susceptibility of people to be swayed by Tv, I sincerely doubt that anything will ever be done about lobbyists and corps until it's too late. Until personal rights of corporations are stripped away, things will only get worse.
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1. We won't go ANYWHERE as a nation, because our "system" is set up on greed. This is why congress talks a big game about how America needs to "surpass" other nations, but yet we have no method of forward progress. Just look at how expensive it is to go to college in America compared to other first world nations. Those other first world nations have a higher percentage of well educated, well off members of society than us.
Greed isn't and never was the problem. The problem is the government keeps intervening in the economy in various ways, usually to the benefit of large companies.

And the reason it is so expensive to go to school is the large subsidies drive up the price.

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3. I personally would like to see more competition. But the way this nation is taken hostage by lobbyists and corporations instead of congress, makes it an impossible dream to have variety.
Do you really think Congress could do better? Really?

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Yeah. Capitalism, getting rewarded for your efforts is great but in this day and age it doesn't really exist. It's controlled capitalism for the regular guy and pure greed for the Executives. Maybe in the 1920's you could hope to work your way up the ladder but these days its just not possible. Meanwhile executives and CEOs suck at their jobs and STILL get $100 million parachutes. Now when you suck at your job and grind the company you're running into the ground and you STILL get paid $100 million to go away, that's not capitalism.
Capitalism is freedom, free trade, and private property, and you are right, we have none of those things. Things will continue to get worse the further we stray from the free market.
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I've been complaining about this for years. How is it, in major cities, we only have 1 ISP provider that provides DECENT speeds, and all the others (if there are any) are utter and total crap. We've got a million miles of buried fiber that isn't even used by anyone.

For me to have to pay 75 amonth just for the speeds I get from Comcast is ridiculous, not to mention they up the price every year anyway. It's just like the damn Utility companies. How many people here have a choice of who they can go through for Utilities?

Government subsidized monopolies is what they all are.

Bah! Googleymoo!
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This is true in Central FL. Our only option is Dim House . . . I mean Bright House
We don't have a land line (cell only) and naked DSL is very expensive for the crap speeds that AT&T give around here. Verizon FIOS? Ha! maybe in 10 years.
You live in the wrong part of town. Over here in Winter Haven you can get Verizon DSL, Verizon Fios, Or Brighthouse Cable Internet.
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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what's the opposite of "progress"?

Root cause of 99% of our problems.
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If "pro" is the opposite of "con", what's the opposite of "progress"?

Root cause of 99% of our problems.
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I don't get your point here because this isn't the topic at all.
LoL read the comment again and looks at his Avatar...
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