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Steam. To the people that were complaining about just how slow their connections were, this is 2011. If you're still clutching to that 1.5Mbps line, you need to upgrade. Steam is the way to go, and will last a long while, in my opinion.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chairless View Post
The best form of DRM is making a game people want to pay for.

just sayin'.

Even back in the bad old days when downloading games was fairly safe i would buy a game i thought was worth it, if not just for the multiplayer aspect.

The best working model of DRM i have seen to date would be the steam model.
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I believe any form of DRM is wrong. DRM just absolutely reeks of "Yeah, so you gave us sixty bucks for 20 bucks worth of game. But we don't trust you. You might have pirated it. So now you have to prove to us you lawfully bought it." It's no different than if Ford puts a bunch of unneccesary restrictions on what fuels, trailers, roads, cargos and drivers are allowed to drive a brand new F150 in an attempt to curb car theft.

So instead I would release my games entirely 100% DRM free. To combat piracy, I would release the game with various other goodies you can't torrent, such as maps of the game world, replicas of in-game items, things of that nature. Not only that but I wouldn't shart out a 5-7 hour rehash of something that's already been done and tack on the same multiplayer gamers have had for decades. I'd focus first and foremost on SP, and if MP proves buggy I'd just patch it out entirely. I might also rig some levels to misbehave in a certain manner for pirates. For example, if you pirate it, the game is stuck on insane difficulty and your mouse sensitivity is on it's slowest setting. Or perhaps a drawbridge you need to cross to make it to the next level doesn't work. Or maybe your guns jam incessantly. AFAIK Batman: Arkam Asylum did something like this and it worked nicely. Legit customers never even noticed, but pirates literally could not beat the game because a level broke itself.


The only way you'll make DRM acceptable is if you remove that DRM entirely. ANY DRM is unacceptable, no matter how minor or transparent.
Edited by TestECull - 1/4/11 at 6:29pm
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You guys all managed to do exactly what I said not to do.

This thread is not about telling me why my idea won't work. This thread isn't about the best available solution at the moment (i.e. steam). It's about theorizing of ways to make DRM acceptable. About sharing these ideas, and not only criticizing others ideas, but adding some sort of input. A suggestion of some sort of something that may work. Combining our ideas. You can think DRM is worst than the holocaust for all I care. Whatever. It's irrelevant. You guys are all missing the point.

I guess OCN wasn't the right forum to post this. I forgot that no one reads the OP here.
OP misses the point that NO DRM is acceptable. The sad truth is, that by treating us all more and more like common criminals each day, the more people out there they will be driving towards criminal activity. I have willingly purchased dozens of DRM FREE games off steam but I refuse to touch anything with DRM. Not only is it invasive, but it can often cause unintended problems and conflicts with your system or make something unplayable. On top of that, who are they to tell me how many times I can re-install a game that I paid for. I know people out there who reformat their system every few months, and I'd have to call up Microsoft or EA begging them for another CD key since I hit my 3 install limit????


Software companies need to focus on making the games we like to play, and leave fighting piracy to the real police.
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the best DRM is no DRM
you said exactly what i had in mind
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I can't believe half of the posts here contribute NOTHING to the table. The best DRM is NOT *i know* NO DRM. It is the people who do not pay for games that F it up for the law abiding person.

Like someone else said in another thread. A few years back pirating was at its HIGHEST before DRM was implemented. If it wasn't then I'm sure it was on the rise to that point.

If there was no DRM, considering there would be no replacement, a huge percentage more of people would pirate these games, and hurt the industry. It may be a matter of XXX millions vs XX millions, but it is business. If this happened the quality of games would take a dump.

As far as a replacement for DRM. How can you police the market when you have people who complain about the inconvenience? This happens in real life issues as well. Perfect example is airport security.

I think DRM is here for a reason. I do not see how you can implement a validation without connection to the internet. CD keys were suppose to do this but look what happened. Keygens....

One last thing. LOL at all you people who don't buy games with DRM included. You are missing out on some AMAZING games that ARE quality games. Ironic is it not? You buy a game if it is worthy of the purchase but it cannot have DRM....
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Steam, all you have to do is force people to register their games via steam after purchase. This is the way fallout new vegas works.

Ultimately only ultra invasive DRM like Ubisofts will be 95%+ effective, but then you can't play without internet and that is hard to handle, imo.
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My favorite DRM is the one that requires an internet connection 100% of the time even when playing single player.

But they stopped using it.
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How about a system like with audio CDs? I buy a disc, put it in my computer, save it to the HDD, then put the disc in a box in the storage room and rock the eff out.

Whatever game developers need to do to make sure my copy of the disc is legitimate is not my concern. I don't mind registering the CD key or doing a validation check once; as long as I can put the disc away and play until my fingers and eyeballs bleed, I really don't care. Right now, Steam has the best system in my opinion. Whether you buy a game online or at the local store, the process of playing it is simple: Click and go.

Come to think of it, why can't we do the same with DVDs and Blu-Rays as we can with audio CDs? Never mind. That's way off topic.
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