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Marketing is important to the livelihood of any successful business, but chalking up Apple's immense success to marketing only is straight up naive. Way too many of you are living in denial.
My opinion is that Apple products are kinda what my English teacher's expectations were; visual appeal with very little bang and no substance. In other words, Apple does a fantastic job of setting the bar low and making it look good. Might I note that my English teacher also happened to be an Apple fanboy. You know the kind. The one with an iPad and a Starbucks with jeans and dress jacket. God I'm glad to be out of that class.
Edited by theCanadian - 1/4/11 at 7:01pm
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Not to get banned but when I was at the Apple store the other day the consumer base was clearly those who care more about appearances and fashion (women and non-straight guys). I do have to give Apple credit on praying on ignorance since the next largest group there were old people. This is at Millenia Mall and the Apple store was past capacity (over heard the employees talking).



LOL. And then 3 years later and still no playback support. While that same year (2008) Jobs is quoted to saying that there's no need for Bluray since streaming will take over. Last I read from March 2010 (haven't gone too deep with this search) stated still no native playback support of movies. So I'd like to see if they do yet.

But on the topic: Anyone else smell a little price fluffing on their shares? That is pretty high so I wonder what exactly is going on with their shares.
It's a *nix based OS on a laptop milled from a single piece of aluminum. You are a "Linux Lobbyist" right??

It's fair to say that people who are looking for style in a laptop look to Apple first because Apple has put the most into the design of their product, while PC laptops are more times then not plastic injection molding, which is cheap and not very durable.

I'm trying to figure out what exactly you think is ignorant about buying one, are you referring to old peoples ignorance to newer technology?

BTW - The MBP I just got for Christmas came from Mall at Millennia, I've since changed my tune quite a bit when it comes to Mac. The hardware is far superior and OS X is growing on me. I still put Win 7 on it though for software purposes.
    
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It is a major problem for people that want to use them for CAD/CAM, since all standards in that sector require ASCII Text. And it seems like an easy thing to implement, seeing that most computers and OSes have been able to deal in ASCII text since it was invented in the 50's - but not OSX. It doesn't matter how they port AutoCAD over, the inability to generate properly formated DXF files will be a deal killer. Not that many Macs have the workstation video cards capable of running AutoCAD.
I'll take the native C compiler over ASCII any day. Not having a C compiler is the second dumbest thing in the world.
    
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You realize Jobs took it from xerox, and so did Gates. I thought this was common knowledge.
Not quite. Xerox actually offered it on a silver platter. Xerox invited Apple to take a look at their think tank at Stanford to show it off. Xerox didn't see a way to market it or a real application for it, but Apple did.
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For those of you who keep mentioning "marketing".

Marketing only gets you so far. Computers are a durable good, especially ones milled from aluminum and built to last. It takes return customers to keep lead the way Apple has.

Fact is, when it comes to durability and design, Apple is light years ahead of any other manufacturer, so marketing isn't the only thing they are doing right.
    
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Fact is, when it comes to durability and design, Apple is light years ahead of any other manufacturer, so marketing isn't the only thing they are doing right.
IBM Thinkpad, Lenovo Thinkpad, HP Elitebook Workstation class, Dell Workstation Class, Panasonic Toughbooks, Sager/Clevo, Fujitsu-Siemens any of these things ring a bell? They should, they are some of the best built laptops around, better built then the MBP. Thinkpad's durability is legendary, that speaks for itself. Design, aka how it looks is subjective so I won't get into it. Design in terms of computers is quite pathetic on the MBP. Cooling, placement of parts are retarded. Cooling= draw cool air from the same place where hot air is expelled. Hard drives are placed below the palm rest. battery is in the front, not a good idea specially since batteries get warm to hot while charging or discharging.

The aluminum used on the MBP's is easy to scratch and dent. 2 feet calls=bent. It's known to bend under its own weight causing slot load drive issues. Hinges are weak, are too are known to fail/creak. I could go on.
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IBM Thinkpad, Lenovo Thinkpad, HP Elitebook Workstation class, Dell Workstation Class, Panasonic Toughbooks, Sager/Clevo, Fujitsu-Siemens any of these things ring a bell? They should, they are some of the best built laptops around, better built then the MBP. Thinkpad's durability is legendary, that speaks for itself. Design, aka how it looks is subjective so I won't get into it. Design in terms of computers is quite pathetic on the MBP. Cooling, placement of parts are retarded. Cooling= draw cool air from the same place where hot air is expelled. Hard drives are placed below the palm rest. battery is in the front, not a good idea specially since batteries get warm to hot while charging or discharging.
In terms of design, can't the same be said about other manufacturers? the fan intake is placed on the bottom of the laptop--be it on a table or on your lap that's not very smart either. Not a lot of space to pull air from.

In terms of the battery since it's internal there's pretty much no where else to put the thing. Would you rather have the CPU/motherboard over the sensitive parts?
 
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Market Cap means absolutely nothing.
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IBM Thinkpad, Lenovo Thinkpad, HP Elitebook Workstation class, Dell Workstation Class, Panasonic Toughbooks, Sager/Clevo, Fujitsu-Siemens any of these things ring a bell? They should, they are some of the best built laptops around, better built then the MBP. Thinkpad's durability is legendary, that speaks for itself. Design, aka how it looks is subjective so I won't get into it. Design in terms of computers is quite pathetic on the MBP. Cooling, placement of parts are retarded. Cooling= draw cool air from the same place where hot air is expelled. Hard drives are placed below the palm rest. battery is in the front, not a good idea specially since batteries get warm to hot while charging or discharging.

The aluminum used on the MBP's is easy to scratch and dent. 2 feet calls=bent. It's known to bend under its own weight causing slot load drive issues. Hinges are weak, are too are known to fail/creak. I could go on.
Where to start....

Many of the laptops you just mentioned share the same HDD config as the MBP.
The aluminum case is no less durable then any other similar notebook, I've owned a Thinkpad and the MBP so far wins. I'm not about to compare it to a notebook meant for construction sites and emergency vehicles. A 2' drop for ANY laptop I've owned has usually meant sure death. My sister, who couldn't possibly be harder on her 4 year old MacBook, hasn't had a problem with the hinges failing, which can't be said about a 2 year old Dell I owned. My MBP runs cooler, inside and out, then any other laptop I've owned, which is nearing 10.
    
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To me, Apple is like a mechanical keyboard. You can go for hours debating why it's worth its price. Some will tell you it's a complete ripoff for what you get, while other's say it just feels a lot better.

Most mechanical keyboards lacks things like media keys, number pad, backlighting, and macro keys and to top it all off they usually cost around $120.

Similarly, Apple charges a premium for mediocre system specs, no blu ray playback, little to no gaming capabilities (though its getting better), and its proprietary software hinders customizability.

However, some people just like the simplicity Apple brings to it's interfaces, much like how a mechanical keyboard user loves having no printed keys or a number pad with a red esc key. It's not for everyone obviously.

You can't call Apple's products innovative because in all honesty they're not but I can surely say they have changed how we listen to music and use our phones.

Hate them if you want--but I really don't understand why some here on OCN hate Apple as much as I hate Justin Bieber...
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