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[Examiner] GeoHot releases PS3 key, asks for job from console makers

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"George Hotz (aka GeoHot) has released what is essentially the security keys to the Playstation 3 and claimed to have opened the doors to the Sony's home console. This follows the news last week where the fail0verflow hacking group called the PS3 security an "Epic Fail" and made public the method to obtain the private key.

The PS3 root key could essentially open up the console to hackers and modders to run unauthorized code for everything from Linux to pirated copies of games. Prior to Sony removing the OtherOS feature, users were able to install a copy of the Linux operation system on to the machine and educational and military institutions created super-computers out of networked PS3s."
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Sony must be pretty mad, from what I heard Sony is going to have a really hard time fixing this mess.

Linux support will be back
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It was only a matter of time. However I will hand it to Sony for making it this long.
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I dont see how they called it a epic fail.. It took them over 4 years to hack it.. They keep saying, it needs linux, it needs linux.. Please.. It had linux for the first 4 years and it took them this long to hack the ps3.. IMHO, Sony's security was pretty good. I watched the entire 45 minute video relating to hacking the ps3 last week and they kept saying epic fail.
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I love how, having "retired" from the scene, geohot makes a sudden re-appearance to claim some more limelight, just as soon as he realises that fail0verflow have worked out everything he had supposedly already achieved a while back, but was too selfish to share with everyone else! Despite his best hopes of getting a job with any of the big three, I can't imagine they'll be taking him up on his offer - too much ego from egohot

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I dont see how they called it a epic fail.. etc..
It's to do with the ultra-simplistic calculation they used to generate the fixed keys, when, they really should have employed a much smarter system to achieve a far greater level of protection. But yes, you can't deny that Sony have had a good run for 4+ years (or whatever the time period has been!)
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It's to do with the ultra-simplistic calculation they used to generate the fixed keys, when, they really should have employed a much smarter system to achieve a far greater level of protection. But yes, you can't deny that Sony have had a good run for 4+ years (or whatever the time period has been!)
Yep.. But if it was so simple, i wonder why it took them so long.. Thats the part that i dont like, they should be saying, "Guys, it took a while, but we finally hacked it.. And your not going to believe how simplistic the calculation was to get the keys"

Not epic fail. If it was so easy, they should have did whatever they did years ago..
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Yep.. But if it was so simple, i wonder why it took them so long.. Thats the part that i dont like, they should be saying, "Guys, it took a while, but we finally hacked it.. And your not going to believe how simplistic the calculation was to get the keys"

Not epic fail. If it was so easy, they should have did whatever they did years ago..
The reason is is that nobody cared enough because it had Linux. One can argue that this hack allows backups, etc., but these hackers main purpose isn't piracy, but to make it more open, ie the ability to install Linux. If Sony didn't remove the OtherOS option, I am pretty sure it would, to this day, still be unhackable, due to there's less hackers out there that want to break a console for the sole purpose of piracy, as opposed to making it more open. These are my thoughts on the matter though.
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The reason is is that nobody cared enough because it had Linux. One can argue that this hack allows backups, etc., but these hackers main purpose isn't piracy, but to make it more open, ie the ability to install Linux. If Sony didn't remove the OtherOS option, I am pretty sure it would, to this day, still be unhackable, due to there's less hackers out there that want to break a console for the sole purpose of piracy, as opposed to making it more open. These are my thoughts on the matter though.
See I don't believe that at all. I would think there is some interest in hacking the console for piracy because mod chips sales (i'm basing my knowledge off Xbox modding, I could be wrong with the PS3).
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I dont see how they called it a epic fail.. It took them over 4 years to hack it.. They keep saying, it needs linux, it needs linux.. Please.. It had linux for the first 4 years and it took them this long to hack the ps3.. IMHO, Sony's security was pretty good. I watched the entire 45 minute video relating to hacking the ps3 last week and they kept saying epic fail.
The epic fail was that Sony did not use a random seed number as the equation requires. It would be like a door company shipping on security doors that all use the same key. It is just a matter of time until someone finds the right key which unlocks all their doors. This why door companys don't use the same key pattern for every lock...


How many people in the world are working to hack the PS3? How many man-hours have been spent trying to crack this?
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Even if it was a simple calculation, I definitely don't count the PS3's security as an "epic fail," that's just Hotz trying to be fresh. The true epic fail is that all these huge hacking groups took this long when the answer was so simple to get. The PS3 has had a VERY impressive run with 0 piracy. When it released, I expected it to be hacked within a few weeks. Even more epic fail will be when new firmware (already released) blocks his hack.

Also, I think Hotz ruined his chance of getting a VERY well paying job. Had he not publicly released the tools to do the hack, Sony may be more willing to hear him out. Now they will more likely take legal action instead.
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