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I'm probably gonna get infracted for this but owell.

Hotz is a whiney fag he is a proper steal the spotlight atention whore.

The fact that the Xbox was hacked from what a year before it's release and it's taken 4 years to do the PS3.

I think the hackers have been doing an epic fail if the security is so simple why haven't they worked it out earlier ?
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Even if it was a simple calculation, I definitely don't count the PS3's security as an "epic fail," that's just Hotz trying to be fresh. The true epic fail is that all these huge hacking groups took this long when the answer was so simple to get. The PS3 has had a VERY impressive run with 0 piracy. When it released, I expected it to be hacked within a few weeks.

Also, I think Hotz ruined his chance of getting a VERY well paying job. Had he not publicly released the tools to do the hack, Sony may be more willing to hear him out. Now they will more likely take legal action instead.
No. It is an epic fail.

Sony did not use a random number in their key. The equation required a random number. It is basic basic basic basic basic cryptography. If your seed is the same, someone will be able to solve for the key after collecting a few keys.
Edited by DuckieHo - 1/4/11 at 6:45am
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1) OtherOS feature left no real reason to hack the PS3 except for piracy, giving no incentive for many people to even attempt to break it.
2) Giving up your private key without some serious hardware level hacking is a major failure, regardless of how long it takes.
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Does this mean sometime in 2011 or 2012 there'd be sites like "PS3ISO.com"?
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Even if it was a simple calculation, I definitely don't count the PS3's security as an "epic fail," that's just Hotz trying to be fresh. The true epic fail is that all these huge hacking groups took this long when the answer was so simple to get. The PS3 has had a VERY impressive run with 0 piracy. When it released, I expected it to be hacked within a few weeks. Even more epic fail will be when new firmware (already released) blocks his hack.

Also, I think Hotz ruined his chance of getting a VERY well paying job. Had he not publicly released the tools to do the hack, Sony may be more willing to hear him out. Now they will more likely take legal action instead.
Lot of assumptions about "these huge hacking groups". No proof.
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Lot of assumptions about "these huge hacking groups". No proof.
By huge I didn't mean in size, I meant the hacking individuals that feel they're such hotshots.
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By huge I didn't mean in size, I meant the hacking individuals that feel they're such hotshots.
Wrong.

The failure on Sony's part is EPIC. Go watch the video to see why Sony failed. What they did was INCREDIBLY STUPID..... I mean a freshman on his first day of cryptography knows not to reuse seeds.

Do you know how hard it is to hack such devices? Figuring out these weaknesses is not easy.... and yes, they are hotshots legitimately. A few guys on their own time beat a mulit-billion mega-corporation.
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Does this mean sometime in 2011 or 2012 there'd be sites like "PS3ISO.com"?
lol have you checked google recently? there already is
    
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Wrong.

The failure on Sony's part is EPIC. Go watch the video to see why Sony failed. What they did was INCREDIBLY STUPID..... I mean a freshman on his first day of cryptography knows not to reuse seeds.

Do you know how hard it is to hack such devices? Figuring out these weaknesses is not easy.... and yes, they are hotshots legitimately. A few guys on their own time beat a mulit-billion mega-corporation.
Bleh... I get what you mean Duckie, and I'm not tossing you aside, but I still feel it was no "epic fail," at least not in regards to how well the security did its job. As simple as the encryption was, it lasted longer than any of the other consoles. After seeing the Metldr key and the random number code used to achieve getting it I don't argue that it was horribly simple to crack; even I've done more complex coding than that and I've only done basic C++ and basic Java. The security did its job. Now just over 4 years old, PS3 is (might not even if Sony's patch is successful) now going to start suffering from piracy.
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Wrong.

The failure on Sony's part is EPIC. Go watch the video to see why Sony failed. What they did was INCREDIBLY STUPID..... I mean a freshman on his first day of cryptography knows not to reuse seeds.

Do you know how hard it is to hack such devices? Figuring out these weaknesses is not easy.... and yes, they are hotshots legitimately. A few guys on their own time beat a mulit-billion mega-corporation.

How are they amazing if theyve taken 4 years to figure out what is apprently so simple ?

Epic fail on the hackers part to me.
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