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I read in comments on ps3hax.net that the only way they could fix it by software is if they change the keys and implement a new way to check if the older software is legit (such as a CRC check). But even that will lead to major problems and the new firmware updates can easily be decrypted to expose the new keys.
Edited by Shadow_UGZ - 1/4/11 at 9:08am
 
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What I would like to know is how I can use this to pop Linux onto the Slim...I've been wanting/waiting to do this for a long time. A key without instructions is pretty useless to the mainstream users.
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What I would like to know is how I can use this to pop Linux onto the Slim...I've been wanting/waiting to do this for a long time. A key without instructions is pretty useless to the mainstream users.
I doubt many people could do anything with it.

I'm not familiar with the PS3, but it seems that this would be more of something that developers involved in homebrew or hacking can use to develop customized content for end users. Although with enough knowledge, there is nothing stopping you from using the keys too.

The info is new and I don't think people have had time to digest it.
    
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I doubt many people could do anything with it.

I'm not familiar with the PS3, but it seems that this would be more of something that developers involved in homebrew or hacking can use to develop customized content for end users. Although with enough knowledge, there is nothing stopping you from using the keys too.

The info is new.
Well, without really knowing pretty much anything about PS3 programming I would think that the key can be used to build and sign an "Other OS" like loader or patch the existing FW to regain the "Other OS" ability. That loader could then be used to hand off operation to a Linux OS.

These guys should be able to whip one up in a couple of hours; I really hope that they do.
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I read in comments on ps3hax.net that the only way they could fix it by software is if they change the keys and implement a new way to check if the older software is legit (such as a CRC check). But even that will lead to major problems and the new firmware updates can easily be decrypted to expose the new keys.
You can't change hardware keys via software (Unless you have EFuse or something).
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it really didnt take 4 years to fully break the console. When did Sony remove "Other OS?" April 2010? minus the date its cracked = 9 months?

im sure if Sony never had Other OS it would have been cracked alot sooner but I guess everyone was focused on linux. if it works why replace it?
That just sounds like a poor excuse to me, it's like losing in a game and saying "Oh I wasn't actually trying".
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That just sounds like a poor excuse to me, it's like losing in a game and saying "Oh I wasn't actually trying".
You can tell you do not know the scene very much. That's what they want. Sony removed OtherOS, even though it was a selling feature of the PS3 and now the hackers can get it back, simple no?

A better analogue would be, "It's like I didn't break into your house until there was something worth stealing".
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It took them a year and a half to hack the 360. The PS3 got hacked a year and a half after the removal of Other OS. They pissed off the hackers...
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A better analogue would be, "It's like I didn't break into your house until there was something worth stealing".
Great analogy.


Don't piss off hackers. Don't dangle challenges to hackers.


"Idle hands are the Devil's playthings"
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You can tell you do not know the scene very much. That's what they want. Sony removed OtherOS, even though it was a selling feature of the PS3 and now the hackers can get it back, simple no?

A better analogue would be, "It's like I didn't break into your house until there was something worth stealing".
But yet, there was something worth stealing. Linux might've been the motivation of that particular group but that motivation is not universal.

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It took them a year and a half to hack the 360. The PS3 got hacked a year and a half after the removal of Other OS. They pissed off the hackers...
A convenient coincidence.
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