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But yet, there was something worth stealing. Linux might've been the motivation of that particular group but that motivation is not universal.
Then again... you are speculating.

Do you have any figures on how many man-hours have been spent hacking any platform?

It is obvious based on the results that Linux-support was a big enough motivater to get enough people working on the issue.
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A convenient coincidence.
Yes, the timing is a convenient coincidence. Hackers didn't "start" trying to break the PS3 when OtherOS was removed, "Correlation does not imply causation". For the most part, there is a large community who enjoys homebrew, and the YellowDog linux was slow trash to begin with. Hackers have been working on the PS3 much longer than the OS removal. The PS3's security code was pretty funny, and fail, but it managed to keep "hackers" at bay for four years. Now to cover up for THEIR fail, they imply they never started until otherOS was removed. At least, that is what the majority of you seem to believe.
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While I do not know this for fact, I am sure hackers have been busy trying to crack the PS3 way before ''OtherOS'' removal.
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Yes, the timing is a convenient coincidence. Hackers didn't "start" trying to break the PS3 when OtherOS was removed, "Correlation does not imply causation". For the most part, there is a large community who enjoys homebrew, and the YellowDog linux was slow trash to begin with. Hackers have been working on the PS3 much longer than the OS removal. The PS3's security code was pretty funny, and fail, but it managed to keep "hackers" at bay for four years. Now to cover up for THEIR fail, they imply they never started until otherOS was removed. At least, that is what the majority of you seem to believe.
Zinxe, I am not sure what you are doing here, but I do know that you are making very little sense, and doing so in a fairly adamant and violent manner, please take a step back and calm down!

There are many different forces at play, as always, and you fail to recognize that it was almost certainly a combination of all! No one group gathered and developed all of the information about the console, it was many groups each spurred by a different motivating factor (Other OS, or simply trying to gain root control, whichever it may be)

Let us all rejoice in the fact that it is opened now, and perhaps enjoy laughter at the expense of Sony for shipping all of the consoles with what is similarly the 'same key', just as Honda once shipped most of its original cars with one of four or so keys.

These things happen and are funny, how they are found no doubt require lots of hard work, and figuring out which algorithm is used to encrypt information is not an easy task, I personally am slightly hurt by your disdain for 'hackers' who are opening up a device and not cracking software, creating rootkits or anything in between. These are very smart, driven people, with lots of knowledge and the ability to cause far more strife than you can imagine.

Please take a seat, grab a cup of tea and realize that we are all friends here, and if not, we should attempt to appear so-- yes we shall have conflict, but not tasteless shouting matches.

-Cory.
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Sony should look at the positive side of things. This could very well cause a surge in PS3 sales.
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Sony should look at the positive side of things. This could very well cause a surge in PS3 sales.
What if the hacks enable pirated discs to be played?

I doubt they'd be happy about that.
    
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Patch patch patch! <--- Sony's solution to that and replies what an epic fail you are!
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Even with the PS3 unlocked now, let me ask you this.

How many modders know Cell programming? Very litte, and its hard to learn.
How many people have BR burners? Not many normal folks, so pirating won't spread.
And How easy is it to actually do the unlocking? This is unknown at the moment.

Xbox, and iPhone modding took off like crazy becasue
Their programming is easy/easy to learn
Everyone has DVD burners or can install from internet (iphone)
idk about Xbox but jailbreaking a iPhone is as simple as downloading a program.

Those combinations will make PS3 "jailbreaking" difficult and slowly progressive. The opposite reasons made Xbox and iPhone jailbreaking was quick, popular, and progressive.

Who knows though, maybe they'll surprise us in how easy it is. But I doubt it.
    
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What if the hacks enable pirated discs to be played?

I doubt they'd be happy about that.
Developers and publishers will be even more unhappy.
 
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The reason is is that nobody cared enough because it had Linux. One can argue that this hack allows backups, etc., but these hackers main purpose isn't piracy, but to make it more open, ie the ability to install Linux. If Sony didn't remove the OtherOS option, I am pretty sure it would, to this day, still be unhackable, due to there's less hackers out there that want to break a console for the sole purpose of piracy, as opposed to making it more open. These are my thoughts on the matter though.
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