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It would be like a door company shipping on security doors that all use the same key. It is just a matter of time until someone finds the right key which unlocks all their doors. This why door companys don't use the same key pattern for every lock...
There's a joke around here somewhere regarding electronic voting machines and access keys that can be forged from a photo on the internet, but I'm not funny enough to write it.
    
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The problem I am seeing is, everyone here automatically assumes that the PS3 didn't get any real attention from so called "real hackers" until the OtherOS was removed, which is what I am calling BS on.
What people are saying is that removal of OtherOS increased the attention of hackers.


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There's a joke around here somewhere regarding electronic voting machines and access keys that can be forged from a photo on the internet, but I'm not funny enough to write it.
I forget which company.... but all their locks to the computer use the exact same key for ease of use. Then again the designers of American electronic voting machines fail basic security concepts. They don't know how to build a secure system.
Edited by DuckieHo - 1/4/11 at 2:11pm
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Usenet? why them in particular i have heard of them but dont really know much about them. what about torrents? also got to be LOADS of sites that upload games, movies, music and such to places like Megaupload and such so they could be used as well but imagine the amount of links that would need to be downloaded even if the game is only 25gb that would be 25 x 1gb files

I wonder if Sony could make some update that checks to make sure the disc is in the tray - similar to how PC games work now even though they can be changed. That would at least stop games being placed on the Hard drive, then would next need to fix a way to stop pirated games being played

Usenet: Cheaper, Faster, Offers 256bit SSL. Some services give VPN. I pay $8/month for Unlimted bandwidth, 20 connections and SSL.

And it won't get deleted like Megaupload/RS/MS/HF does which is all crap services now imo. Just sayin'

Usenet is simple, all the links are saved in a .nzb which ranges from 15kb-3MB depending how big the overall file is. Then you DL it, auto extracts, and if its damaged, it automatically repairs. Far more superior imo than MU/RS/HF/MS/FS
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Usenet: Cheaper, Faster, Offers 256bit SSL. Some services give VPN. I pay $8/month for Unlimted bandwidth, 20 connections and SSL.

And it won't get deleted like Megaupload/RS/MS/HF does which is all crap services now imo. Just sayin'


Usenet is simple, all the links are saved in a .nzb which ranges from 15kb-3MB depending how big the overall file is. Then you DL it, auto extracts, and if its damaged, it automatically repairs. Far more superior imo than MU/RS/HF/MS/FS
even if its illegal content and it wont get deleted?
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even if its illegal content and it wont get deleted?

Nope
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Wrong.

The failure on Sony's part is EPIC. Go watch the video to see why Sony failed. What they did was INCREDIBLY STUPID..... I mean a freshman on his first day of cryptography knows not to reuse seeds.

Do you know how hard it is to hack such devices? Figuring out these weaknesses is not easy.... and yes, they are hotshots legitimately. A few guys on their own time beat a mulit-billion mega-corporation.
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I wonder if Sony could make some update that checks to make sure the disc is in the tray - similar to how PC games work now even though they can be changed. That would at least stop games being placed on the Hard drive, then would next need to fix a way to stop pirated games being played
They kinda do that now but it's been bypassed on some games. Some games you need to have an authentic BD in the drive in order to play the backup, but some games can be boot in discless mode using a backup manager.
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The epic fail was that Sony did not use a random seed number as the equation requires. It would be like a door company shipping on security doors that all use the same key. It is just a matter of time until someone finds the right key which unlocks all their doors. This why door companys don't use the same key pattern for every lock...


How many people in the world are working to hack the PS3? How many man-hours have been spent trying to crack this?
That's a double bladed sword if you ask me.
Ok - Sony did do an "epic fail" in their security.
But using your question: how many people in the world have been trying to hack the PS3 and the hours spent slaving over this...... yet everyone missed this epic fail until now and it's been what- 4 years?

I'd say that Sony isn't the one who failed here entirely. It's the hackers. Took them forever to figure out that, as per your example, that the same key is used to unlock every door. It's a skeleton key, and from what I gather, a blindingly obvious one. If it was such an "epic fail" of Sony, then why did it take so long to figure out until now?
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why online service? sure you could do it from places like Blockbuster or other stores that rent games out, that is a real option but then would need a BluRay Re-writer but the cost of that would out weigh the cost of a few games though so a very good option if they want to pirate
I'm pretty sure that someone will write a program that uses the built in BR reader to rip games/movies to the PS3's HDD.
    
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That's a double bladed sword if you ask me.
Ok - Sony did do an "epic fail" in their security.
But using your question: how many people in the world have been trying to hack the PS3 and the hours spent slaving over this...... yet everyone missed this epic fail until now and it's been what- 4 years?

I'd say that Sony isn't the one who failed here entirely. It's the hackers. Took them forever to figure out that, as per your example, that the same key is used to unlock every door. It's a skeleton key, and from what I gather, a blindingly obvious one. If it was such an "epic fail" of Sony, then why did it take so long to figure out until now?
That is what I am saying, but according to all these people "hackers" never "attempted" to crack the PS3 until the OtherOS was removed. So, they claim instead of it taking 4 years, it only took a few months. Which I believe is BS. The otherOS brought about more help, but the efforts put into breaking it didn't begin the moment OtherOS was removed. So yes, while Sony failed, supposed hackers failed just as hard.
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