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I'm still fine with DDR2, thanks.
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nice speed. but i'm sure current 2133 DDR3 are faster. just as the case with DDR2 vs early DDR3

they need to decrease the timings.
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So, this stuff has good clock speeds, but how about the timings? Those are much more important. As far as it goes, if this stuff can't beat DDR3 in timings, I'll relegate it to the world of notebooks/tablets.
Does it really matter? RAM performance has very little impact for most people.

The advancement in DDR technology is for power consumption and signaling.
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Does it really matter? RAM performance has very little impact for most people.

The advancement in DDR technology is for power consumption and signaling.
QFT...

From personal experience, gonna have to back Duckie on this one.
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Damn I still have DDR2. By the time i update to DDR3 it'll be outdated <.<
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So, this stuff has good clock speeds, but how about the timings? Those are much more important. As far as it goes, if this stuff can't beat DDR3 in timings, I'll relegate it to the world of notebooks/tablets.
Well, your DDR3 has worse timings than DDR2, and DDR2 has worse timings than DDR, so why arent you using DDR in your rig and leave the rest for notebooks and tablets?
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Well, your DDR3 has worse timings than DDR2, and DDR2 has worse timings than DDR, so why arent you using DDR in your rig and leave the rest for notebooks and tablets?
No DDR IMC on current CPUs.
 
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nice speed. but i'm sure current 2133 DDR3 are faster. just as the case with DDR2 vs early DDR3

they need to decrease the timings.
I challenge you to a test: Loosen timings as much as possible, test in games. Then tighten timings as much as possible, test in games. You'll find hardly any difference anymore.
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So, this stuff has good clock speeds, but how about the timings? Those are much more important. As far as it goes, if this stuff can't beat DDR3 in timings, I'll relegate it to the world of notebooks/tablets.
Umm, who cares? Haven't you noticed the cycle by now?

The 3H's of new memory, high price, high timings, high voltage. As previous versions of DDR became more mainstream the 3H's were lowered.

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Damn I still have DDR2. By the time i update to DDR3 it'll be outdated <.<
No, by the time you update you'll probably be using DDR4.

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nice speed. but i'm sure current 2133 DDR3 are faster. just as the case with DDR2 vs early DDR3

they need to decrease the timings.
Are you talking from experience or you think higher rated memory is faster because of a bigger number slapped on the packaging and other people on the interwebz said so?

Don't go chasing waterfalls, IMHO, unless I feel a real world difference or at least a 50% improvement on paper I ain't gaining nothing.

I laugh at the idiots who go crazy when they see a 5% performance again....from a synthetic benchmark. It's like saying my car has 2 more horsepower than yours, get real.
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2133 at 13-11-12?
EEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
That is absolutely disgusting

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Anybody saw the timings on that module? Says 13-11-12. Very bad but i'm sure they improve timings in time. I remember first DDR3 800Mhz also had ridiculous timings but now we have 2133MHz modules with 9-9-9-27 timings.
2133 @ a high CL9 is still fairly disappointing...

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I'm at least hoping for an improvement with DDR4 (which will probably happen since the best DDR3 chips often get lower timings than DDR2 counterparts... same w/DDR2 & DDR3. i.e. Most DDR-400 required 3-4-4 or 3-3-3 for generic and 2-3-3 performance, DDR2-800... 6-6-6/5-5-5 generic, 4-4-4 or sometimes 3-3-3 performance... DDR3-1600... 9-9-9+ mainstream/generic, 6-8-6~6-6-6 performance)
Edited by xd_1771 - 3/5/11 at 10:21pm
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