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From what I seen memory doesn't have much of a performance impact other than limiting overclocks. Unless it gave a huge performance boost I don't see whats so exciting about it other than the new tech and lower voltage.
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post #72 of 104
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Originally Posted by xlink;12629298 
timings do matter and always will

given the proper context.

The goal of computing isn't to compute things VERY VERY FAST, it's to compute a HUGE, COMPLEX thing in a reasonable amount of time.

as such, most architectures prioritize bandwidth over latency(do 10x the work in the same time period, but the time period is unchanged as compared to last years)

latency is the issue here. Timings measure the number of cycles required to perform a function as such if at a given timing the number of cycles(Hz) DOUBLES, the timings can also double and latency remains unchanged. Admittedly with technology changes things become a bit trickier, but the idea is similar across generations.

DDR1 400 2-2-2
DDR2-800 4-4-4
DDR3-1600 8-8-8

latency hasn't really changed(heck it's trended downward, DDR1-400 2-2-2 was considered phenomenal(BH-5), DDR2 4-4-4 was pretty common and I had kits that did 3-3-3(d9) and DDR3 is hitting 2000+ 8-8-8ish(basically everything, hyper, d9 etc))

Man +rep for this response, finally someone who cared to explain biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by blaze200;12629864 
From what I seen memory doesn't have much of a performance impact other than limiting overclocks. Unless it gave a huge performance boost I don't see whats so exciting about it other than the new tech and lower voltage.

Lower power consumption and it's more efficient. We're only one aspect of the computing "arena" - if you look at probably the largest market segment (in terms of money put in), servers will run better and cost less to run. When you're looking at 64 or even 128GB of RAM, speeds start to become a real factor, as well as the power consumed. When large server farms are looking to get the most performance per Watt, progress like this helps.
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DDR4 djees,lots of people still work on DDR2 and DDR3.

2015...bump the thread again then...
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This makes me wonder about the possibility of Bulldozer V2 supporting DDR4. Uhm.
   
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post #76 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieHo;11885608 
The release dates depends entirely on Intel. wink.gif


The earliest implementation of a DDR4 controller will probably be on the Haswell microarchitecture and that is probably 2013 at earliest.


Mainstream in maybe 2015-16....
ddr4-roadmap.jpg

DDR3 ram has been out for a lot longer than 2010.

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Time to save up for a Haswell and 24gb of DDR4 tongue.gif

Hopefully by 2015 games and applications can actually use more then a few cores.

amen to that bro cheers.gif
     
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Originally Posted by Delphin;12629604 
Because cores have increased. When we start to max out cores, they will go back to bumping up clocks.

They went for multiple cores because they were having trouble bumping up the clocks in the first place.

multiple sockets and a new motherboard form factor is what i see in the future.
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Cool but does it really take 3 years to become mainstream? Prices for like 4GB are going to be something like $300-$500 at first. I think I'll stick with DDR3 until DDR4 is down to the normal price range. It's pretty cool though.
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Cool but does it really take 3 years to become mainstream? Prices for like 4GB are going to be something like $300-$500 at first. I think I'll stick with DDR3 until DDR4 is down to the normal price range. It's pretty cool though.

Umm, it didn't take DDR2 3yrs. to become mainstream, nor did it take DDR3 3yrs. become mainstream. Where do you get your facts from?
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