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  • 30% (43)
    Big mistake.
  • 45% (65)
    It'll be okay.
  • 18% (26)
    I am a loser.
  • 5% (8)
    Other, explain.
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post #71 of 125
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Originally Posted by ehume;11899666 
I'm an old dude, and I still see flicker on a CRT at 72Hz. It's just bearable at 85Hz. I'm not comfortable until 100Hz. Flat screens are OK at 60Hz because of the persistence of the pixels. But there is biological variation, and OP seems to be on the fast end of the bell curve.

When I said it is rare to see any difference over 70 I was referring to FPS not the screen's Hz. Sorry about that. I just meant that if your gaming or whatever at around 60-70 FPS your not going to be able to notice a difference if it gets higher such as 140 fps. The human eye can only detect around 60-70FPS (varies with different people).
But I did say that 120Hz refresh rates and such are for flickering and tearing. A lot of old CRTs had 125Hz but modern LCDs are only just hitting that area.
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post #72 of 125
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Originally Posted by ehume;11898954 
Miahallen recommends putting the RAM as slow as possible to OC the cpu properly, just to make sure the RAM is not an issue. Only after the cpu is stable are we supposed to bring the RAM back to its normal operating speed.

I understand that, but I was suggesting a 1:3 was a lot considering where his clock was at. With 1:1 and Blacklines he shouldn't be stuck at 3.5 on an i7 architecture.
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post #73 of 125
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Originally Posted by Semper Fidelis;11892050 
It isn't just a few hundred extra megahertz... because the Sandy Bridge architecture is different, and using a different socket is more future proof then going with the former platform.


Plus it OC's higher, at lower voltages and lower temps on air. The only thing that I find kind of wierd and bass akwords about SB is that the integrated GPU on the K series gets the better HD 3000 graphics and the lower end chips get the HD 2000 graphics. You would think it would be the other way around since people who buy the K series are more likely to use a higher end discreet GPU anyways, and people who go with the lower end chips would benefit a lot more with a better integrated GPU and would be far more likely to use the integrated graphics. I have to wonder if they know something I don't, because I can't make sense of why they would do this?


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post #74 of 125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slytown;11899979 
I understand that, but I was suggesting a 1:3 was a lot considering where his clock was at. With 1:1 and Blacklines he shouldn't be stuck at 3.5 on an i7 architecture.

I don't understand, I'm not at home, but I'm pretty sure that 2:6 or 1:3 is the slowest setting available. At base clocks that would be 133 x 3 = 400. ddr-800. i7 don't have a 1:1 divider do they? That would give you ddr-266 at base clocks, would it not?

Aside from the semantics, I believe you guys all have the same main point, if I'm understanding you correctly: run the ram at it's lowest setting while hammering out the cpu o/c.
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so have you made any progress on the clock??? start fresh, drop the multi to 12, start smashing the bclk up at 10mhz blocks, as it stalls raise QPI, till you get your desired clock, or max your qpi volts, testing with prime for 5 min at each interval. if your pushing to the max, once you reach the highest bclk come back a couple. once you got your max/desired bclk, and prime stable for an hour go onto your ram, and get that stable and where you want, with dram, qpi and ioh. then start testing memtest. then slowly start raising the cpu multi, now start using vcore to stabilize as the frequency comes up. you might already know this but if not its a pretty good method. let us know your progress wink.gif
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post #76 of 125
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Originally Posted by CH4PZ;11904578 
so have you made any progress on the clock??? start fresh, drop the multi to 12, start smashing the bclk up at 10mhz blocks,

Sandy Bridge BLCK is very rigid since everything is run and controlled on die. Everything I have read says max BLCK on SB is 105, it is unstable over 105. BLCK is not the way sandy bridge overclocks, is almost all multiplier as far as OC on SB goes.

unless you are not really being serious..?


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post #77 of 125
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Originally Posted by Tleilaxu Ghola;11906491 
Sandy Bridge BLCK is very rigid since everything is run and controlled on die. Everything I have read says max BLCK on SB is 105, it is unstable over 105. BLCK is not the way sandy bridge overclocks, is almost all multiplier as far as OC on SB goes.

unless you are not really being serious..?


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yeah i know that, he said he's gonna keep his 940 and try and clock it further:wth: comment 50
Edited by CH4PZ - 1/5/11 at 7:51pm
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Originally Posted by CH4PZ;11904578 
so have you made any progress on the clock??? start fresh, drop the multi to 12, start smashing the bclk up at 10mhz blocks, as it stalls raise QPI, till you get your desired clock, or max your qpi volts, testing with prime for 5 min at each interval. if your pushing to the max, once you reach the highest bclk come back a couple. once you got your max/desired bclk, and prime stable for an hour go onto your ram, and get that stable and where you want, with dram, qpi and ioh. then start testing memtest. then slowly start raising the cpu multi, now start using vcore to stabilize as the frequency comes up. you might already know this but if not its a pretty good method. let us know your progress wink.gif

I've not tried it in this way, good tip++. I like the sound of it because it's quite the opposite of what I've been trying, and opposite is good because I haven't been having much luck.

Unfortunately, I didn't see this post until this morning, so I'll try tonight. I came home and had a 450 watt corsair waiting to be put in my old rig, so I threw it in to get it going for my wife. She'll be going from a Dell with a P4 from 2002, to an E8500 @ 4ghz. She came out pretty good. I'm thinking I'll probably re-enable all the green functions and throw it back to stock settings. She likes facebook and cropping photos from her digital camera to print on here photosmart. What do you guys think? Leave it @ 4 or put it back in green mode?

I did manage to squeeze a few more mhz out and pass prime through the night. I had been stuck @ 22 x 160 and had tried throwing the multi to 23 while throwing more juice to it but that wasn't working, so first I upped the multi to 23 and downed the bclk to 153 to get the cpu back to 3.5 where it has been proven stable @ 1.288 vcore and 1.275 vtt. That looked good so I upped the bclk to a whopping 157 and prime ran all night. It's not much but it is a baby step. 3.6!
    
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Originally Posted by CH4PZ;11904578 
so have you made any progress on the clock??? start fresh, drop the multi to 12, start smashing the bclk up at 10mhz blocks, as it stalls raise QPI, till you get your desired clock, or max your qpi volts, testing with prime for 5 min at each interval. if your pushing to the max, once you reach the highest bclk come back a couple. once you got your max/desired bclk, and prime stable for an hour go onto your ram, and get that stable and where you want, with dram, qpi and ioh. then start testing memtest. then slowly start raising the cpu multi, now start using vcore to stabilize as the frequency comes up. you might already know this but if not its a pretty good method. let us know your progress wink.gif

Essentially I said this. You should focus on the baseclock/FSB first. If you drop the multi you can max out your FSB, then focus on getting your speeds up. You should be able to achieve at least 400.
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Originally Posted by slytown;11911473 
Essentially I said this. You should focus on the baseclock/FSB first. If you drop the multi you can max out your FSB, then focus on getting your speeds up. You should be able to achieve at least 400.

400 what?smile.gif

Since this poll's inception the Big mistake's + the You're a loser's have been locked in a tie with the it'll be okay's.
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