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If you want some legitimate reviews I am posting a list below. These reviews are some of the most trusted for security professionals.

http://www.westcoastlabs.com/checkma...techGroupID=27 - Does not give Symantec software it's seal of approval for Checkmark. Thus it does not detect and pass a range of tests with Malware, BOTS, and other viruses.

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/produ...irus_2010.html - Review of Norton by PCWorld - gets 2nd for interface. Malware detection not stellar. For non-techies, the average joe antivirus basically.

http://www.pcantivirusreviews.com/re..._software.html - Shows the sites review methods and gives Norton 5th on their listing.

http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/ - Number 4 here beat out by Bitdefender, Kaspersky, and Webroot.

http://www.top10list.com/top,10,anti...protection.asp - Comes in second to Kaspersky.

http://techdrag.com/top-10-antivirus-2011.html - Comes in third to Bitdefender and Kaspersky.

http://www.infocera.com/TOP_TEN_ANTI...sktop_2378.htm - Norton comes in 10 behind all the others - this was a 2008 review but it still holds weight as this hasn't changed much.

http://top-10-antivirus.com/ - Comes in fourth.

http://www.cnet.com/topic-reviews/antivirus.html - Gives Norton a mediocre user review and a 7.5 through their labs.

https://www.icsalabs.com/products?.x=31&.y=14 - Symantec is not ICSA certified.
ICSA determines the true standard of certifications for security softwares.

So where are some of their legitimate reviews making it the best, and where are it's certifications? I see neither of these and it is NOT recommended by the Security+ certification standard. Not ICSA certified and does not pass Checkmark. So - why buy it... support it if you want, but it is not certified by real professionals and is intended for basic home protection - need more. Check it's certifications yourself. http://www.symantec.com/about/index.jsp - They are just everywhere. Some certification. You know Enron had the money for advertising their products, too. Does that mean they had the best stuff. This is elementary thinking and if you can prove to me that Norton is board certified by anyone, then maybe I will degress. Here - see for yourself - http://www.symantec.com/business/pro...d=endpt_prot_1. Their Checkmark cert and ICSA certs expired in 2009.

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/latest_comparative/index - This shows a reactive comparison from VB100 - the leading security software certification company. Norton is not certified currently. Symantec Norton falls in at 70.0 detection on this current review.
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Ok guys I have solved the question but I want to know, why does Norton apparently suck?

I mean I have seen A LOT of videos where people have tested Norton by downloading malicious software and it blocks like an average of 9/10 viruses and malware!

It looks like a great piece of work and even people like MaximumPC and PCWorld recommended Norton!
let me ask you this. have you ever tried to run it on an older computer? and have you ever tried removing it?

It hates slow computers because it is a resource hog, and removing it is a nightmare, same with mcafee.
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Use anything but Norton.

Our school implements Symantec Endpoint Protection, a.k.a the enterprise version of Norton.

Major PITA.

I remember for the first time, my laptop took exactly 36 minutes and 8 seconds to boot after they installed Norton.

Removed it, put in Microsoft Security Essentials, and performance increased instantly.

Now boots in under a minute.

EDIT: Reading the above post, it's not a hog only for older rigs.

My laptop runs an i5 with 4GB of DDR3, and it takes half an hour to get into Windows.
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let me ask you this. have you ever tried to run it on an older computer? and have you ever tried removing it?

It hates slow computers because it is a resource hog, and removing it is a nightmare, same with mcafee.
since norton 2009 it has not been a resource hog
and there's a removal tool right from symantec that you run, then reboot the computer and its removed.

anyway here's the IS review by Cnet for 2011
http://download.cnet.com/Norton-Inte...-10592551.html

top 10 review
http://internet-security-suite-revie...on-review.html

PC World
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/colle...10_suites.html

BodyShield, im sorry with those links you posted (most linked incorrectly, and to old versions of the software), and the comment that norton hasn't changed much since 2008 in my opinion of your professional expertise even with your engineering background and so and so time in the industry

Saying stuff like that to me just means you're acting like a sheep instead of actually honestly testing and checking out new revisions and software.

here's passmark's benchmark in 2009 when Norton 16.0 was revamped
http://www.passmark.com/ftp/antiviru...esting-ed3.pdf
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since norton 2009 it has not been a resource hog
and there's a removal tool right from symantec that you run, then reboot the computer and its removed.

anyway here's the IS review by Cnet for 2011
http://download.cnet.com/Norton-Inte...-10592551.html

top 10 review
http://internet-security-suite-revie...on-review.html

PC World
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/colle...10_suites.html

BodyShield, im sorry with those links you posted (most linked incorrectly, and to old versions of the software), and the comment that norton hasn't changed much since 2008 in my opinion of your professional expertise even with your engineering background and so and so time in the industry

Saying stuff like that to me just means you're acting like a sheep instead of actually honestly testing and checking out new revisions and software.

here's passmark's benchmark in 2009 when Norton 16.0 was revamped
http://www.passmark.com/ftp/antiviru...esting-ed3.pdf
Why should I have to download a remover? Have you ever checked a computer after using that uninstaller? There are still lots of files that they leave behind. Their explanation is that it is so when you reinstall it doesn't take as long. Why the hell would I be uninstalling if I wanted it to leave files on my computer?

Norton is horrible just admit it, get a better program, and move on with life.
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Why should I have to download a remover? Have you ever checked a computer after using that uninstaller? There are still lots of files that they leave behind. Their explanation is that it is so when you reinstall it doesn't take as long. Why the hell would I be uninstalling if I wanted it to leave files on my computer?

Norton is horrible just admit it, get a better program, and move on with life.
Which is why I manually wipe out the Symantec folder once I'm done uninstalling.
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Why should I have to download a remover? Have you ever checked a computer after using that uninstaller? There are still lots of files that they leave behind. Their explanation is that it is so when you reinstall it doesn't take as long. Why the hell would I be uninstalling if I wanted it to leave files on my computer?

Norton is horrible just admit it, get a better program, and move on with life.
so basically you're also not actually testing anything or looking at it recently.
The other Sheep welcome you into the Norton bashing

yes i used the uninstaller before, and it removed the registry keys and the program
i do believe it still left a log and key file in the norton folder in my documents, but that was it.

And i use the uninstaller when i update to the newer versions (i.e. 2009 to 2010, 2010 to 2011)
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so basically you're also not actually testing anything or looking at it recently.
The other Sheep welcome you into the Norton bashing

yes i used the uninstaller before, and it removed the registry keys and the program
i do believe it still left a log and key file in the norton folder in my documents, but that was it.

And i use the uninstaller when i update to the newer versions (i.e. 2009 to 2010, 2010 to 2011)
I have yet to understand why you guys are defending a program that is known to not be as good as others, and there are free programs out there that are better.
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I have yet to understand why you guys are defending a program that is known to not be as good as others, and there are free programs out there that are better.
That's the thing...the latest couple of versions ARE known to be as good/better than many of the other AV programs out there. Again, you need to update your knowledge. Norton USED to be crap but over the last couple of years, it's gotten better and there's absolutely nothing wrong with someone choosing to use it over something else. Sure there are great free AV options out there, but people have different preferences over UI and such. And many people don't mind paying a few bucks to support the company and get some extra features over free versions.

As for the uninstaller thing, most applications leave some sort of trace in the registry, Documents and Settings, Program Files, or Windows folders. Try running CCleaner on a system that has had stuff uninstalled and you'll see lots of leftovers. It's really quite common. At least Norton provides a 1st party cleanup tool rather than relying on people to hunt down 3rd party apps to sweep up the leftover bits.
     
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That's the thing...the latest couple of versions ARE known to be as good/better than many of the other AV programs out there. Again, you need to update your knowledge. Norton USED to be crap but over the last couple of years, it's gotten better and there's absolutely nothing wrong with someone choosing to use it over something else. Sure there are great free AV options out there, but people have different preferences over UI and such. And many people don't mind paying a few bucks to support the company and get some extra features over free versions.

As for the uninstaller thing, most applications leave some sort of trace in the registry, Documents and Settings, Program Files, or Windows folders. Try running CCleaner on a system that has had stuff uninstalled and you'll see lots of leftovers. It's really quite common. At least Norton provides a 1st party cleanup tool rather than relying on people to hunt down 3rd party apps to sweep up the leftover bits.
If it is just as good as those other programs, then those other programs still win, because you have to PAY for norton.
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