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Hi Ball;

YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT - DRM restrict fair use of products that were purchased. If I purchase a product why can I not put it on another media to play. This is the problem with DRM. You need to undertsand from a consumer point of view what DRM does and does not allow. That is why it is always defeated.

Furthermore, the DRM used by online game company suck period. I do not purchase any games with DRM as it does not work properly. If I purchase a game I have the disk I should be able to play it whenever i like. If it is on my laptop I should be able to play in locations without an internet connection.

IF you want to have a discussion about DRM I would be more than glad to highlights in failures.
sounds like YOU completely miss the point, perhaps you'd like to get caught up and read up on everything b4 jumping to conclusions.

Tha'ts the problem with this whole DRM thing, people hear "DRM" and jump the gun, believe me, if it was that big of a concern, I would be voicing this.

This only applies to the Intel Insider service with streaming HD 1080p movies from the big studios.

If you do not use Intel Insider service, this DRM does not apply to you.
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These kill switch has always existed even before you were born (seeing as you keep spreading misinformation and pulling BS out of your mouth, you can't be more than 10 years old right?). Corporate customers rely on kill switch features so that they can protect sensitive data from theft. This is honestly nothing new.

And also the DRM thing, don't even get started. You have no idea what you're talking about so lets just close this whole thread before you start filling people's heads with misinformation.

Why don't you wear a tin foil hat and hide in the corner if you're so scared of these "features" that will have no impact on you.
I agree about the Killswitch as it is actual a good thing from a security viewpoint for a corporate environment.

The DRM stuff is wrong period as it impact the fair use doctrine for purchased prodcuts. I am assuming you know what that is? If not educate yourself. DRM should not be enforce on hardware. It is similar in nature to the censor chips in TVs and you know how successful that was.
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sounds like YOU completely miss the point, perhaps you'd like to get caught up and read up on everything b4 jumping to conclusions.

Tha'ts the problem with this whole DRM thing, people hear "DRM" and jump the gun, believe me, if it was that big of a concern, I would be voicing this.

This only applies to the Intel Insider service with streaming HD 1080p movies from the big studios.

If you do not use Intel Insider service, this DRM does not apply to you.
I think I am a little more familiar with DRM then you. Please do not speak out of assumption. I have a team that manages a DRM solution to protect patents and other IP property. I do know what it does and how it does it. I also know what it does not do well. So intel is disallow people who purchase a valid movie from streaming it to other devices within their house.

HMMMM, I think you need a little more experience. If you want to continue this discussion please pm and we can take it off line.
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Hi Kmon, I'll remember that as I never use the Insider service this DRM was designed for.

If it's hardware I'm pretty sure they can't mod and adjust it through their 4g network on a whim. It is what it is, which is nothing I'm concerned about.

I just want to let you know that the product this DRM affects isn't one you can purchase, you can only rent it afaik. It's digital HD movies, delivered in a manner, and at a time, that currently is not available.

ty 2010!

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Hi Balla;

It depends upon the actual license. Some licenses allow the recording of media most do not period from a stream source.

Now would the DRM allow the streaming to other devices within the household?
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Streaming from your computer to a tv is allowed afaik, but you need a SB chip to decode the payback, and I believe it also comes with a coded timer so after your rental time is up you can no longer view the file.
    
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Streaming from your computer to a tv is allowed afaik, but you need a SB chip to decode the payback, and I believe it also comes with a coded timer so after your rental time is up you can no longer view the file.
Easily defeated unless sourced to a time sync. If source to a time sync what happens with you system get out of sync?

Okay so the source does not allow time shifting viewing. Great service, I wonder how successful it is going to be.
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Gosh, why does intel have to do this "kill switch" thing? First DRM ( I am not a fan any type of form restriction even if it doesn't affect me in anyway, I want the choice) and now KILL SWITCHES, *** is intel thinking? Intel is stupid, you know if someone actually stole your Laptop, the thief would probably just break down your Laptop into components and sale it for parts over the internet or better yet, they will just replace it with another CPU chip. I was thinking about getting a SandyBridge but now it is not worth it.... I don't want some random ******* with any chance going around and shutting down my computer, NOT COOL.
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Gosh, why does intel have to do this "kill switch" thing? First DRM ( I am not a fan any type of form restriction even if it doesn't affect me in anyway, I want the choice) and now KILL SWITCHES, *** is intel thinking? Intel is stupid, you know if someone actually stole your Laptop, the thief would probably just break down your Laptop into components and sale it for parts over the internet or better yet, they will just replace it with another CPU chip. I was thinking about getting a SandyBridge but now it is not worth it.... I don't want some random ******* with any chance going around and shutting down my computer, NOT COOL.
I'm just going to copy and paste what I typed before,

This kill switch is a feature of Intel vPro. It will not work unless vPro is set up and enabled and only your company can enable that. This feature is for corporate customers.

Plus, in order for it to work, your WWAN (3G) card has to be certified by Intel for vPro use (very few 3G wireless cards are vPro certified). Its not enabled by default and your company would have to use vPro infrastructure for it to work.

Corporate customers need this to protect their proprietary and sensitive info. My company uses this all the time. Killswitch features have always existed. This is not new people.

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I agree about the Killswitch as it is actual a good thing from a security viewpoint for a corporate environment.

The DRM stuff is wrong period as it impact the fair use doctrine for purchased prodcuts. I am assuming you know what that is? If not educate yourself. DRM should not be enforce on hardware. It is similar in nature to the censor chips in TVs and you know how successful that was.
I'm more than educated enough, thank you. Most people on the other hand are over-reacting to this, including you. I'm willing to bet people who do buy SB platforms will not be affected at all.
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These kill switch has always existed even before you were born (seeing as you keep spreading misinformation and pulling BS out of your mouth, you can't be more than 10 years old right?). Corporate customers rely on kill switch features so that they can protect sensitive data from theft. This is honestly nothing new.

And also the DRM thing, don't even get started. You have no idea what you're talking about so lets just close this whole thread before you start filling people's heads with misinformation.

Why don't you wear a tin foil hat and hide in the corner if you're so scared of these "features" that will have no impact on you.
Ahhh, so you are saying that there are no security vulnerabilities with this kill switch, and I am incorrect in saying so? That my good man, is spreading misinformation. It would appear you are "raging" as people your age would call it for some reason, so I would try if I were you to not to become so disheartened over this topic, as this is merely a discussion about a tech product.

P.S. You're cute. Plus Rep for the valid argument.
    
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