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Because, I cannot really afford to wait until bulldozer arrives, and AMD's performance per watt is way behind right now in terms of multi threaded 3d rendering performance.

And, the i7 970 does not have DRM...

Not sure why it's pressing you to have more performance. If you can wait...wait to see what Bulldozer has to offer, or Ivy Bridge. By then there will be quad channel memory in place. Plus in a year there will be price drops.

I actually scrapped my whole desktop build that was based around the 2600k. I cancelled the 2600k order, and returned everything else I had bought.

I still got my gaming laptop: ATI 5870m, dual SSD hard drives, i7 920xm processor, and games fly on it. MW2, 60fps constant 1080p. BOPS, 40-60fps 1080p, NFS Shift 60fps constant 1080p, BC2, 40-60fps 1080p DX9 mode, MOH, 60fps 1080p dx9 mode, Tomb Raider Guardian of Light 60fps 1080p...etc. etc. etc.

I just can't stand having a big pc tower really. It's like, computer towers should be antiques...It's 2010! We should be running Tri SLi rigs on little mini-itx boards by now cool.gif

No game should need an SB chip. These Sandy Bridge chips are more for benchmarks, or other professional usage. I'm waiting on the future...and the future isn't these big desktops with matx / full atx motherboards, and monstrous graphic cards.
    
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whats the point of quad memory channel? theres little to no difference between triple and double. dont think they release quad for awhile
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Not sure why it's pressing you to have more performance. If you can wait...wait to see what Bulldozer has to offer, or Ivy Bridge. By then there will be quad channel memory in place. Plus in a year there will be price drops.

I actually scrapped my whole desktop build that was based around the 2600k. I cancelled the 2600k order, and returned everything else I had bought.

I still got my gaming laptop: ATI 5870m, dual SSD hard drives, i7 920xm processor, and games fly on it. MW2, 60fps constant 1080p. BOPS, 40-60fps 1080p, NFS Shift 60fps constant 1080p, BC2, 40-60fps 1080p DX9 mode, MOH, 60fps 1080p dx9 mode, Tomb Raider Guardian of Light 60fps 1080p...etc. etc. etc.

I just can't stand having a big pc tower really. It's like, computer towers should be antiques...It's 2010! We should be running Tri SLi rigs on little mini-itx boards by now

No game should need an SB chip. These Sandy Bridge chips are more for benchmarks, or other professional usage. I'm waiting on the future...and the future isn't these big desktops with matx / full atx motherboards, and monstrous graphic cards.
I really wish I could wait and see what bulldozer has to offer, but I have 3d animation to render and I am on a deadline. By the time bulldozer comes out I would have done around half of my initial rendering work done with 8-10 i7 970 systems if I can set it up soon enough.

Ah, and to the people who believe "It's just a clock" Think again, there is plenty of information out there that says SB computer chips can be deactivated via a 3G signal.

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http://www.intel.com/technology/anti-theft/index.htm

Edited by Authie - 1/9/11 at 5:26pm
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This DRM feature is going to be a huge failure. What about playing the file on my AMD rig or possible ARM CPU? Cannot play.

How about a PS3 or Xbox 360? Cannot play.

On your iPhone? Android? Cannot play.

DRM restricts your use of media.
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This DRM feature is going to be a huge failure. What about playing the file on my AMD rig or possible ARM CPU? Cannot play.

How about a PS3 or Xbox 360? Cannot play.

On your iPhone? Android? Cannot play.

DRM restricts your use of media.
People love porno

It could affect the way to watch free porno
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Hi guys, I think we should remove DRM from EVERYTHING!

Publishers have security over their products is total crap in my opinion.

We should also have all locks removed from doors and polices forces laid off since they don't allow me to do everything I want as well.
average locks stop robbers for 5 seconds, same applies to software.Police can only deal with the aftermath.
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This DRM feature is going to be a huge failure. What about playing the file on my AMD rig or possible ARM CPU? Cannot play.

How about a PS3 or Xbox 360? Cannot play.

On your iPhone? Android? Cannot play.

DRM restricts your use of media.
As far as I know, the DRM restrictions only apply to the Intel media streaming services. However, I could be wrong about this.

Media is not my concern, I am more worried about some guy in Pakistan uploading a virus to deactivate hardware on a mass scale. That would be messy, and it would kill my business for sure.

Pardon me for not having enough faith in a company that restricts the flow of technology because its more profitable for them.
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Pardon me for not having enough faith in a company that restricts the flow of technology because its more profitable for them.
This, at least, is a sentiment i can agree with.
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I'm just going to copy and paste what I typed before,

This kill switch is a feature of Intel vPro. It will not work unless vPro is set up and enabled and only your company can enable that. This feature is for corporate customers.

Plus, in order for it to work, your WWAN (3G) card has to be certified by Intel for vPro use (very few 3G wireless cards are vPro certified). Its not enabled by default and your company would have to use vPro infrastructure for it to work.

Corporate customers need this to protect their proprietary and sensitive info. My company uses this all the time. Killswitch features have always existed. This is not new people.



I'm more than educated enough, thank you. Most people on the other hand are over-reacting to this, including you. I'm willing to bet people who do buy SB platforms will not be affected at all.
You are very funny - but completely confused as from your response do not have much security experience. I like the kill switch ideal but I do not think it is will be effective.

You are assuming "the company" is the only ones going to be able to utilize the kill switch functionality. This is a very big assumption and usually wrong. You are assuming the controls work the way they are design. Experience people realize that controls can be bypass and functionality access in different way then was expected. Just because you think it needs to be activated by a company does not mean it can not be activated by someone else, or by a rogue company employee.

Let think that an employee go rogue and decides to kill the hardware by enabling the kill switch What is the value ofthe lost productivity to the business? Is the lost productivity acceptable? Hmmm are you going to be able to sell that to an executive that is evaluated on uptime? How much is it going to cost to replace? Is the kill switch functionality going to be able to be reverse? If so when the information is leaked or sold, how effective is the kill switch?

A few questions I dont think you thought about?

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Do you know how ridiculous you sound? Its a ******* clock!
No Authie is being very rational in his points and very smart. You do not understanding the risks and exposures.
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