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average locks stop robbers for 5 seconds, same applies to software.Police can only deal with the aftermath.
Jamotide, very well put

Please consider that
Locks are only effective for a short period of time if you try to use the entry that the locks protects and don't have lock picking tools. Also, another approach is to break or remove the window and go in that way.
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Gosh, why does intel have to do this "kill switch" thing? First DRM ( I am not a fan any type of form restriction even if it doesn't affect me in anyway, I want the choice) and now KILL SWITCHES, *** is intel thinking? Intel is stupid, you know if someone actually stole your Laptop, the thief would probably just break down your Laptop into components and sale it for parts over the internet or better yet, they will just replace it with another CPU chip. I was thinking about getting a SandyBridge but now it is not worth it.... I don't want some random ******* with any chance going around and shutting down my computer, NOT COOL.
Good thought but most thiefs will just take the hardware to the pawnbroker and sell it. The real expsoure is the data on the laptop. Due to US and EU laws it requires notifcation to affected paties which can become very expensive for a company.
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Gosh, why does intel have to do this "kill switch" thing? First DRM ( I am not a fan any type of form restriction even if it doesn't affect me in anyway, I want the choice) and now KILL SWITCHES, *** is intel thinking? Intel is stupid, you know if someone actually stole your Laptop, the thief would probably just break down your Laptop into components and sale it for parts over the internet or better yet, they will just replace it with another CPU chip. I was thinking about getting a SandyBridge but now it is not worth it.... I don't want some random ******* with any chance going around and shutting down my computer, NOT COOL.
Good thought but most thiefs will just take the hardware to the pawnbroker and sell it. The real exposure is the data on the laptop. Due to US and EU laws it requires notification to affected parties which can become very expensive for a company.
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This is just ruthless....time and time again some monster company crosses the line. BUT THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!! 3G Network access to your computer without you knowing? ***?
You do realize that the CPU doesn't come with a built in 3G modem? Right?

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I was going to set up a sandy bridge render farm (14 builds w/ 2600k's), screw it I'm going i7 970's now and shell out an extra grand or two instead of putting up with this BS.
What BS? Try re-reading the actual Intel white papers.


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First of all, there is not misunderstanding. I REALIZE that its "supposed" to be for their intel streaming service. Isn't that a little extreme? Hardware DRM for a service that nobody uses? It's the potential threat that I am worried about. If there is a potential threat to my business and I can choose to avoid it I will. Now, I'm not saying that Intel is the threat, but say there is an "insider" in Intel who knows how to access a computers information through a 3G Network. As long as this possibility exists I am not purchasing that product, period.
So don't install a 3G modem in your computer, or register the CPU for the Intel Hardware Security. As far as the possibility you have a greater chance of getting a computer virus that installs Mac OS.

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As far as I know, the DRM restrictions only apply to the Intel media streaming services. However, I could be wrong about this.

Media is not my concern, I am more worried about some guy in Pakistan uploading a virus to deactivate hardware on a mass scale. That would be messy, and it would kill my business for sure.

Pardon me for not having enough faith in a company that restricts the flow of technology because its more profitable for them.
You are MUCH more likely to get a virus from some guy in Pakistan to turn your i7 970's into a spam farm.
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You do realize that the CPU doesn't come with a built in 3G modem? Right?

What BS? Try re-reading the actual Intel white papers.

So don't install a 3G modem in your computer, or register the CPU for the Intel Hardware Security. As far as the possibility you have a greater chance of getting a computer virus that installs Mac OS.

You are MUCH more likely to get a virus from some guy in Pakistan to turn your i7 970's into a spam farm.
I have read in a number of articles that has no mention of a 3g modem, the cpu can be shut down just by receiving a 3g signal, it does not need to be powered on at all. This is from my understanding, however if you come across any information/evidence that suggests otherwise then I will gladly admit that I am wrong about this.

Also, my render farm will be managed via a local network only.
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My bad as I was on a couple of machines and didnt realized I posted the revision from the second workstation (KVM).
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Ahhh, so you are saying that there are no security vulnerabilities with this kill switch, and I am incorrect in saying so? That my good man, is spreading misinformation. It would appear you are "raging" as people your age would call it for some reason, so I would try if I were you to not to become so disheartened over this topic, as this is merely a discussion about a tech product.

P.S. You're cute. Plus Rep for the valid argument.
Killswitch has always existed. Have you heard any news of Goldman Sachs or Morgan Stanley's PCs and laptops being shut down due to some hacker hacking their kill switch? Do you know any corporations using vPro (including my company) having problems? No, but even if it did happen you wouldn't know since you're just some high school kid who lives with their mommy. And hackers can't hack your CPU to shut it down since you don't even have a vPro certified 3G wireless card supported by your company. I already know how this works since I'm using it all the time so please stop being a dumbass.

I'll repeat again how this kill switch works,

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This kill switch is a feature of Intel vPro. It will not work unless vPro is set up and enabled and only your company can enable that. This feature is for corporate customers.

Plus, in order for it to work, your WWAN (3G) card has to be certified by Intel for vPro use (very few 3G wireless cards are vPro certified). Its not enabled by default and your company would have to use vPro infrastructure for it to work.

Corporate customers need this to protect their proprietary and sensitive info. My company uses this all the time. Killswitch features have always existed. This is not new people.
If anyone is interested read this white paper from Intel,

http://www.intel.com/en_US/Assets/PD...o+antitheft%29

vPro supports anti-theft killswitches and have always existed before Sandy Bridge.
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What does this mean? if i Download something.. illegally.. do my CPU stop working? :S
    
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What does this mean? if i Download something.. illegally.. do my CPU stop working? :S
I believe your CPU actually blows up if you do.
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