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Originally Posted by BigCactus View Post
Actually it's DRM plain and simple, at it's "fundamental level."

Pay attention, this is the definition of DRM:

"Digital rights management is a term for access control technologies that can be used by hardware manufacturers, publishers, copyright holders and individuals to limit the use of digital content and devices. The term is used to describe any technology that inhibits uses of digital content not desired or intended by the content provider."
Unfortunately you are just regurgitating information that Wikipedia feeds you and trusting what they say. How many times has information on Wikipedia been wrong and incomplete? Plenty of times. (sound familiar Try looking up DRM in a (good) dictionary . . . there isn't an official meaning).

To make this easier, an analogy:

There is a gold bar locked inside of a small cage. This cage is placed inside of a larger cage that has a lion in it. The outer cage is unlocked. The small cage the gold is in has a huge padlock on it, and is welded to the floor of the bigger cage.

In this case the Lion is the DRM, and the small cage is the DCP (Digital Content Protection).

The lion controls who can get to the little cage, and the little cage makes sure that even if you get to the little cage you can't get the gold.

In this case the "hardware" element of Intel Insider is the small cage. It is there to "protect" the stream (gold).


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It doesn't get any more fundamental than that. I mean you want us to take you seriously but come on...it's full blown hardware DRM built inside the chip, in all desktop/laptop sandy bridge processors. No one else will argue this, except Intel. Buy into it by all means, the performance of SB I think is actually worth it. Just remember this is just a stepping stone to even more invasive hardware DRM in your desktop.
You want us to take you seriously? Then try thinking about this logically.
You better throw out your GPU then. It has hardware content protection built in too! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP

We can see how that has people so scared.
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It's impossible for anyone to put out any kind of security measures for anything without this kind of paranoid fearmongering from people with no idea what they're talking about. It's the exact same thing with everything like this. People oppose it either because they're worried it'll limit their ability to pirate, or because it's some kind of computer doomsday device that's going to kill us all.

And of course, those people are always the most vocal, so an otherwise minor issue ends up being blown up into something major just because people want to exaggerate it into something completely unlike what it originally was.

Well, that's the way of things. If you're afraid of it, just avoid Sandy Bridge. I think I'll take my chances with a 2500K.
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Is there any way to mod the DRM and Killswitch out? I have a dremel and a hot glue gun with me right now.
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It's impossible for anyone to put out any kind of security measures for anything without this kind of paranoid fearmongering from people with no idea what they're talking about. It's the exact same thing with everything like this. People oppose it either because they're worried it'll limit their ability to pirate, or because it's some kind of computer doomsday device that's going to kill us all.

And of course, those people are always the most vocal, so an otherwise minor issue ends up being blown up into something major just because people want to exaggerate it into something completely unlike what it originally was.

Well, that's the way of things. If you're afraid of it, just avoid Sandy Bridge. I think I'll take my chances with a 2500K.
http://securitythreat.info/sans-inte...-sun-dec-19th/

Most concern is the remote attacks starting with Dos, read the article.
    
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Somebody doesn't know when to quit
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http://securitythreat.info/sans-inte...-sun-dec-19th/

Most concern is the remote attacks starting with Dos, read the article.
Have you read that article paragraph? Check out the update: http://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?storyid=10111&rss

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It seems that the Intel Anti-Theft announcement is creating a significant debate on The Net. This ISC post simply tried to catch your attention about new technologies and features we need to keep an eye on, and it didn't reflect this will be a feature for mass p0wn4g3. Trying to clarify this technology a little bit, Intel Anti-Theft seems to be associated to Intel vPro (TM) CPUs only and the associated chipsets, plus capabilities on the BIOS , firmware/software, and a capable 3G subscription. The kill switch can be reversed (enabling the computer back without physical damage) by providing proper authentication through a 3G heartbeat, a local passphrase or one-time token.
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We'll keep in an eye out for new developments and see what happens. We will see if Intel's hardware DRM which is implemented in all Sandy Bridge processors(both desktop and laptop) has any unforeseeable side effects.

And we will see if the Killswitch feature is eventually hacked, and people's computers are being turned off remotely without their consent. Ouch, that would not be cool.

It'll take a while however since 99.9% of the people out there do not own a Sandy Bridge processor.

    
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Is there any way to mod the DRM and Killswitch out? I have a dremel and a hot glue gun with me right now.
lmao....no. You knew that though didn't you?
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why is this misinformation thread still going??? a Mod should close it
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oh goody - I can get Adobe CS from the above poster, I wonder if Intel's DRM can stop these too? I hear that it can stop spammers dead in their tracks, and remotely shut down their spamming computer too.
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