Overclock.net › Forums › Video Games › PC Gaming › Battlefield 3 to be DX11, won't run on XP
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Battlefield 3 to be DX11, won't run on XP - Page 2

post #11 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katana View Post
From what I've seen, the DX10-only games seem to do well in performance. The whole reason for DX10 was to make things easier to program, so when people did both DX9 and DX10 for a game, they were usually missing out on most of the reason they would use DX10 in the first place. When it's DX10-only, they get to take advantage of certain things without worry. Thus why Just Cause 2 ran so well.
So that explains why I was able to run considerably higher settings in JC2 than I do in most games.
Boot to the Head!
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ stock Epox 9NPA+SLI XFX 8800GS 384 4x1GB G.Skill DDR400 @ stock 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
120GB WD + 1TB WD GP + 320GB WD AAJS Mystery DVD-RW Vista Ultimate x64! ViewSonic P220F CRT + KDS 15" CRT 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
$3 Compaq keyboard with pretty aluminum finish ThermalTake PurePower 500W Rosewill R230-P-BK Wired Optical 
Mouse Pad
Table. Mouse pads are overrated 
  hide details  
Reply
Boot to the Head!
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ stock Epox 9NPA+SLI XFX 8800GS 384 4x1GB G.Skill DDR400 @ stock 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
120GB WD + 1TB WD GP + 320GB WD AAJS Mystery DVD-RW Vista Ultimate x64! ViewSonic P220F CRT + KDS 15" CRT 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
$3 Compaq keyboard with pretty aluminum finish ThermalTake PurePower 500W Rosewill R230-P-BK Wired Optical 
Mouse Pad
Table. Mouse pads are overrated 
  hide details  
Reply
post #12 of 49
Old but let me just say, we all know how amazing DirectX10 looked right from Direct x9? /sarcasm. Direct x10 was nothing more than marketing bull and this is another marketing gimmick.
post #13 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by TestECull View Post
Finally games are starting to leave DX9 in the dust. Honestly anyone running a machine that can run modern games should be on 7 by now, and anything that actually needs XP to run decently isn't going to be able to run modern games anyways.

I'm fine to play it. My 8800GS can support DX10, and I'm not on XP, so I'm good.
You say it in a very negative manner.


Honestly DX10/DX11 are just hype.

I rarely see amazing visuals, and IF I do, it's a big performance hit for minimal visual improvement.

Honestly, Depth of Field on Metro 2033 is crap, just to make things blur for almost a 30FPS hit...

Tessellation is passable, and yes, I used to own a GTX470...

Just my 2cents.
Edited by 8-Ball - 1/4/11 at 9:59pm
post #14 of 49
Hallelujah!

DX9 is lame. It was cool for its time, but now it needs to die
Alienware M9700
(14 items)
 
Wackbook pro
(12 items)
 
Mpowerlicous
(12 items)
 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
AMD Turion ML-42 2.4GHz AMD Turion ML-40 Alienware nForce3 2X nVidia GeForce Go 7900GS SLI 
RAMHard DriveOSMonitor
1GB DDR 333MHz Samsung Spinpoint 250GB Windows XP Professional 1920X1200 Integrated LCD 
Case
Alienware M9700 chassis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3615QM @2.3GHz Apple Logic Board Intel HD 4000 Nvidia GT 650M 512MB 
RAMHard DriveOSMonitor
16GB 1600MHz DDR3 500GB Samsung 840  OSX 10.10 1440x900  
PowerAudioAudioAudio
85W PSU Schiit Modi Schiit Magni 2 Über DT770 Pro 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770K MSI Z77 Big Bang MPower Radeon R9 270X 4X4GB G.Skill  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Intel X25-V Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Life without walls? Who needs windows? Acer 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G15 Raidmax RX-1000AE Brooks shoebox  Acer G500 
  hide details  
Reply
Alienware M9700
(14 items)
 
Wackbook pro
(12 items)
 
Mpowerlicous
(12 items)
 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
AMD Turion ML-42 2.4GHz AMD Turion ML-40 Alienware nForce3 2X nVidia GeForce Go 7900GS SLI 
RAMHard DriveOSMonitor
1GB DDR 333MHz Samsung Spinpoint 250GB Windows XP Professional 1920X1200 Integrated LCD 
Case
Alienware M9700 chassis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3615QM @2.3GHz Apple Logic Board Intel HD 4000 Nvidia GT 650M 512MB 
RAMHard DriveOSMonitor
16GB 1600MHz DDR3 500GB Samsung 840  OSX 10.10 1440x900  
PowerAudioAudioAudio
85W PSU Schiit Modi Schiit Magni 2 Über DT770 Pro 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770K MSI Z77 Big Bang MPower Radeon R9 270X 4X4GB G.Skill  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Intel X25-V Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Life without walls? Who needs windows? Acer 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G15 Raidmax RX-1000AE Brooks shoebox  Acer G500 
  hide details  
Reply
post #15 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5entinel View Post
Old but let me just say, we all know how amazing DirectX10 looked right from Direct x9? /sarcasm. Direct x10 was nothing more than marketing bull and this is another marketing gimmick.

...and you don't much about software development, I take it?

Like Vista, DX10 was a new design with growing pains. MS implemented a number of very useful features. DX9 was filled with legacy support. It just takes time for developers to gain experience.


Think about how XBox or PS games looked when they first came out... then think about how they look 2-3 years later.
Edited by DuckieHo - 1/4/11 at 10:02pm
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #16 of 49
DX10 was a HUGE leap forwards. Unified shaders FTW.
Alienware M9700
(14 items)
 
Wackbook pro
(12 items)
 
Mpowerlicous
(12 items)
 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
AMD Turion ML-42 2.4GHz AMD Turion ML-40 Alienware nForce3 2X nVidia GeForce Go 7900GS SLI 
RAMHard DriveOSMonitor
1GB DDR 333MHz Samsung Spinpoint 250GB Windows XP Professional 1920X1200 Integrated LCD 
Case
Alienware M9700 chassis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3615QM @2.3GHz Apple Logic Board Intel HD 4000 Nvidia GT 650M 512MB 
RAMHard DriveOSMonitor
16GB 1600MHz DDR3 500GB Samsung 840  OSX 10.10 1440x900  
PowerAudioAudioAudio
85W PSU Schiit Modi Schiit Magni 2 Über DT770 Pro 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770K MSI Z77 Big Bang MPower Radeon R9 270X 4X4GB G.Skill  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Intel X25-V Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Life without walls? Who needs windows? Acer 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G15 Raidmax RX-1000AE Brooks shoebox  Acer G500 
  hide details  
Reply
Alienware M9700
(14 items)
 
Wackbook pro
(12 items)
 
Mpowerlicous
(12 items)
 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
AMD Turion ML-42 2.4GHz AMD Turion ML-40 Alienware nForce3 2X nVidia GeForce Go 7900GS SLI 
RAMHard DriveOSMonitor
1GB DDR 333MHz Samsung Spinpoint 250GB Windows XP Professional 1920X1200 Integrated LCD 
Case
Alienware M9700 chassis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 3615QM @2.3GHz Apple Logic Board Intel HD 4000 Nvidia GT 650M 512MB 
RAMHard DriveOSMonitor
16GB 1600MHz DDR3 500GB Samsung 840  OSX 10.10 1440x900  
PowerAudioAudioAudio
85W PSU Schiit Modi Schiit Magni 2 Über DT770 Pro 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770K MSI Z77 Big Bang MPower Radeon R9 270X 4X4GB G.Skill  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Intel X25-V Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Life without walls? Who needs windows? Acer 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
G15 Raidmax RX-1000AE Brooks shoebox  Acer G500 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
...and you don't much about software development, I take it?

Like Vista, DX10 was a new design with growing pains. MS implemented a number of very useful features. DX9 was filled with legacy support. It just takes time for developers to gain experience.


Think about how XBox or PS games looked when they first came out... then think about how they look 2-3 years later.
Ok then, do you think by maximizing the life span of DX9 and not moving into DX10/11 across the board would result in better visual improvements?
post #18 of 49
cant wait. hope the graphics are way better than bc2
Braaaaaapppp
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920~4.0Ghz HT=on 1.35 vCore 3844A717 ASUS P6T XFX r9290 12288 Mb OCZ1600 8-8-8-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
300Gb Velociraptor and 1.5 Tb Seagate Pioneer Custom water Lop Windows 7 Home Premium x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Gateway 23" logitech Keyboard Corsair HX 1050 Antec 900 2 
MouseMouse Pad
Razer DeathAdder Steel Series QCK 
  hide details  
Reply
Braaaaaapppp
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920~4.0Ghz HT=on 1.35 vCore 3844A717 ASUS P6T XFX r9290 12288 Mb OCZ1600 8-8-8-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
300Gb Velociraptor and 1.5 Tb Seagate Pioneer Custom water Lop Windows 7 Home Premium x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Gateway 23" logitech Keyboard Corsair HX 1050 Antec 900 2 
MouseMouse Pad
Razer DeathAdder Steel Series QCK 
  hide details  
Reply
post #19 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8-Ball View Post
Ok then, do you think by maximizing the life span of DX9 and not moving into DX10/11 across the board would result in better visual improvements?
I don't understand what you mean, the point of this thread is to show that we're moving out of DX9 and finally fully start to move into DX11.
post #20 of 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8-Ball View Post
You say it in a very negative manner.
That's because XP is too damn old to be supporting anymore. Shoulda died three years ago when Vista came out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 8-Ball View Post
Ok then, do you think by maximizing the life span of DX9 and not moving into DX10/11 across the board would result in better visual improvements?
DX9 has been in use for so long that if there's any improvements to be had we've already found them.
Boot to the Head!
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ stock Epox 9NPA+SLI XFX 8800GS 384 4x1GB G.Skill DDR400 @ stock 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
120GB WD + 1TB WD GP + 320GB WD AAJS Mystery DVD-RW Vista Ultimate x64! ViewSonic P220F CRT + KDS 15" CRT 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
$3 Compaq keyboard with pretty aluminum finish ThermalTake PurePower 500W Rosewill R230-P-BK Wired Optical 
Mouse Pad
Table. Mouse pads are overrated 
  hide details  
Reply
Boot to the Head!
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ stock Epox 9NPA+SLI XFX 8800GS 384 4x1GB G.Skill DDR400 @ stock 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
120GB WD + 1TB WD GP + 320GB WD AAJS Mystery DVD-RW Vista Ultimate x64! ViewSonic P220F CRT + KDS 15" CRT 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
$3 Compaq keyboard with pretty aluminum finish ThermalTake PurePower 500W Rosewill R230-P-BK Wired Optical 
Mouse Pad
Table. Mouse pads are overrated 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: PC Gaming
Overclock.net › Forums › Video Games › PC Gaming › Battlefield 3 to be DX11, won't run on XP