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sry I dont know much about your board. If it requires 2 cpu 8 pin plugs unplug the non main one it should run without. Also check your manual ram goes in the slots they say and is diff for all boards.
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Originally Posted by downloads_plz;11898729 
Update.

Put the psu back in my sig rig and it doesn't work either now...kind of. All the fans will run indefinitely but it wont try to post or give any beep codes either.

So a bit of an update that's just left me with absolutely no idea what to do:

To give a bit more info about what happened, when I first put the PSU back in my sig rig, it posted perfectly fine and got stuck on the hard drive before loading into Windows (I read Windows 7 doesn't really need to be reformatted when changing motherboards anymore, but I believe the problem is coming from not actually getting into the damn Windows program to get the new drivers, but I digress...I think?) Anyway, after it got stuck I restarted and went into the BIOS, which froze after about 15 seconds. Tried to restart again, which is when the above problem started; fans all turn on and run fine, but there's no POST or beep or anything.

I borrowed a generic 580 watt PSU to test for my sig rig and I get the exact same results, so I believe the PSU is out as the culprit. I reseated everything but the motherboard itself, same results. I haven't tried swapping the CPU or RAM out yet, but both worked perfectly until the second I took out the PSU, so I'm skeptical that that's the problem either (and TBH partly hesitant to put different RAM or a CPU in as I just seem to be ******* everything up), but as I said above, I have no idea what to do next.

And this isn't even getting into my new computer mentioned in the first post, which also isn't working but is now somewhat on the back burner, mostly just because I'm stubborn and want to fix my older sig rig computer first.

Literally ANY help or suggestions are appreciated at this point, as I'm just grasping at straws.
    
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post #13 of 34
if that psu is brand new it should def power that build my buddy has a higher power consumption build with same psu and it powers fine. It sounds to me like you got another problem. no post says mobo problem.

first thing you do is keep everything the way you have it but start trying to boot while stripping parts. use 1 stick of ram and rotate. Use the 8800 (for lower power consumption). take the cdrom out. take all fans out (except the hsf). Make sure the cpu is being cooled properly I dont know much about the acf7 but put the stock heatsink on. I doubt it but it could be your heatsink is broken or something. If the chip overheats it wont boot. Basically the goal is to start it with as little parts as possible.
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The paper clip test should only turn the PSU on. It will still detect what power is needed and run at the appropriate level. I think... I've never verified this with a kill-a-watt meter, but all my training says that's what should happen.

So, both your new and sig rigs are down? Holy crap! For the new rig, a single beep SHOULD mean it POSTed fine. For your sig rig no POST means a hardware problem, usually CPU or MoBo. If you don't have another working computer to test your CPU in, I'd try powering it up with only the MoBo and CPU plugged in. No keyboard, no mouse, no video card, no hard drives, no sound card, no fans EXCEPT the CPU fan. If you still don't get a POST code, then it's either MoBo or CPU.

I have read that your board (Asus P5N-E) can be a real pain as it likes to die, so I would suspect that.
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The paper clip test should only turn the PSU on. It will still detect what power is needed and run at the appropriate level. I think... I've never verified this with a kill-a-watt meter, but all my training says that's what should happen.

So, both your new and sig rigs are down? Holy crap! For the new rig, a single beep SHOULD mean it POSTed fine. For your sig rig no POST means a hardware problem, usually CPU or MoBo. If you don't have another working computer to test your CPU in, I'd try powering it up with only the MoBo and CPU plugged in. No keyboard, no mouse, no video card, no hard drives, no sound card, no fans EXCEPT the CPU fan. If you still don't get a POST code, then it's either MoBo or CPU.

I have read that your board (Asus P5N-E) can be a real pain as it likes to die, so I would suspect that.

So the paperclip test should in fact power anything connected right?

op: try a new cmos battery as this can sometimes be the sign of a faulty psu
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So the paperclip test should in fact power anything connected right?

op: try a new cmos battery as this can sometimes be the sign of a faulty psu

Yeah, it *SHOULD* power everything. It won't make it go all out guns a blazin' crazy, as it should detect the wattage necessary and put that out accordingly.
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post #17 of 34
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TLDR Questions:

1. If I get no error beeps from the motherboard without any RAM or video cards inserted, but all of the fans still turn on, does that mean it is a problem with the motherboard or could it be something else OTHER than the PSU (tested with a working PSU, same problem)?

2. Is it possible for a PSU to become damaged in such a way that it would ruin the motherboard/CPU/RAM/whatever of any computer it's plugged in to?

3. Is it possible for a motherboard to become damaged in such a way that it would ruin a PSU that is plugged into it?



Okay, so an update:

My sig rig, Comp 1, still isn't working but I believe I have the problem narrowed down. I've completely taken out the RAM and video card, but when I turn the power on I get no error beeps of any kind. All the fans turn on but nothing happens. There is still a green light on my motherboard but I'm guessing (hopefully?) that this just means the motherboard is fried?

I guess my question is if my motherboard was working properly, wouldn't it give error beeps from not having the RAM and video card inserted? And even if it were my CPU that's ruined, shouldn't it still give an error beep of some kind?

I haven't really tried to fix with my newer build, Comp 2, consisting of an i7-950, Asus Rampage II Gene, 6 GB DDR3, too much since I realized Comp 1 was also down, but to update my misconception posted earlier, I don't get any error codes on Comp 2 either. The shrill "beeping" noise that I thought I was hearing from the motherboard was actually caused by the video card still being plugged into the PCI-E slot but not having power running to it.

So basically I have two seperate computers showing very similar problems...BUT I also know at this point that it can't JUST be the PSU causing the problems, because as said in an earlier post a seperate working PSU doesn't fix the problems.

My extremely confused conclusion (for now) is that my PSU which worked fine for 3 years has some sort of problem which caused it to fry both motherboards...and this problem developed while I was transfering it from Comp 1 to Comp 2...?

Honestly I know there's a lot about building computers that I'm probably ignorant to, but Comp 2 was going to be my 5th built computer and I've never had any problems with the previous 4. I'm at a complete loss as to what to do now.
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The shrill "beeping" noise that I thought I was hearing from the motherboard was actually caused by the video card still being plugged into the PCI-E slot but not having power running to it.

I had this exact same problem when I built my sig rig. Do you have a video card that DOES NOT require power from the psu? If you do try that and boot the pc. I had a modular psu and the port that powered my video card was defective. I had the same shrill beeping noise you described. I put in an old pcie video card and my problem was solved. Good luck in trying to fix your pc.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by downloads_plz;11923672 
TLDR Questions:

1. If I get no error beeps from the motherboard without any RAM or video cards inserted, but all of the fans still turn on, does that mean it is a problem with the motherboard or could it be something else OTHER than the PSU (tested with a working PSU, same problem)?

No error beeps with no ram or video? Yeah, it's MoBo or CPU.
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2. Is it possible for a PSU to become damaged in such a way that it would ruin the motherboard/CPU/RAM/whatever of any computer it's plugged in to?

Absolutely. A multimeter is very handy at testing it to see if this is indeed the case. A Power Supply Tester is also very handy for this (and easier to use than a multimeter in most cases)
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3. Is it possible for a motherboard to become damaged in such a way that it would ruin a PSU that is plugged into it?


Normally, no.



So both computers are displaying similar symptoms and the only common factor is the PSU? It is possible that some dust or something inside the PSU moved when you removed it and placed it in the other computer. This caused a short, and now your PSU is a MoBo (or CPU) killer. This is all theory, but this is how I would proceed until you are able to get your hands on a multimeter or PSU tester and verify the PSU's integrity.
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Originally Posted by briang191;11924084 
I had this exact same problem when I built my sig rig. Do you have a video card that DOES NOT require power from the psu?

I don't, but just to clarify it only makes that noise when I physically remove the power to the video card. When the PCI-E power is plugged into the video card, it starts up fine (the video card, not the computer itself obviously).

I thought about trying a video card that doesn't require additional power, but seeing as my motherboard doesn't even seem to notice that there's no video card plugged in, I'm fairly sure that's not the problem at this point.

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