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Since you already have the stuff it's probably not worth the upgrade, unless you're one of those people that always needs the latest and greatest. I think I'll be skipping this generation and using the opportunity to buy an 1156 i7 on the cheap.
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nah keep ur 860 getting SB is just side-grading, BTW SB HAS A PROTECTION THING AGAINST UTORRENT AND ILLEGAL PORGRAMS LIKE PIRATED WINDOWS COPY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,IF IT FEELS U ARE IN DANGER IT JUST SHUTS THE WHOLE SYSTEM DOWN
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Originally Posted by TehStranger? View Post
nah keep ur 860 getting SB is just side-grading, BTW SB HAS A PROTECTION THING AGAINST UTORRENT AND ILLEGAL PORGRAMS LIKE PIRATED WINDOWS COPY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,IF IT FEELS U ARE IN DANGER IT JUST SHUTS THE WHOLE SYSTEM DOWN
it seems a little weird... how does a piece of hardware prevent running a program / software ??
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Originally Posted by the magical me View Post
then I can understand that the new feature for video encoding/ conversion only works if the built-in-chip graphics working ?? and not with a discrete card ?

sorry if this is confusing.
any idea about this please ???

I am still concerned.
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Yeah i would like more info on the shutting down etc usinging pirated software?
SB is like 1156 all over, i would skip it for ivybridge thats when the real upgrade will come.
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Originally Posted by the magical me View Post
I have already purchased an i7 860, a P55-GD55, and 800 watt PSU.

and this is why I am asking...
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Originally Posted by cyanmcleod View Post
i am not upgrading, just doesnt seem worth the extra price once you factor in the new mobo.
This makes sense.

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Originally Posted by 2010rig View Post
Can you still return it?

If so... most likely, yes. 'cuz it'll be around the same price give or take.
As does this.

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Originally Posted by the magical me View Post
yet, there is no certain answer regarding what I asked specifically...

I am not asking about the value for money and the like...

I am just asking about the new features I talked about that are in the SB, and not in the i7s... so are they a big improvement for video conversion and 3D display ??

please review the first post to know what I am asking about.
To be honest, the speculated clock-for-clock increase doesn't seem leaps and bounds above current i7 offerings considering that you'd have to get a new motherboard as well. Yes, there is an improvement, but IMHO, I'd wait. For video encoding, the SB CPU's are at the top, but typically for proprietary, or expensive software that is designed for multi-thread processing--with current free/cheap video encoding/transcoding software that isn't parallel threaded, the gains will probably be quite a bit less over current i7's (though with the higher turbo frequency with the SB chips, there will still be some gains).

If you can return your 870 without any restocking fees etc., and haven't already purchased a mobo for your 870, it makes the most sense to sit for a month or two and see how things pan out with SB--and if it doesn't look like you need it, then likely the current i7's will have gone down in price a bit more.
    
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Originally Posted by TehStranger? View Post
nah keep ur 860 getting SB is just side-grading, BTW SB HAS A PROTECTION THING AGAINST UTORRENT AND ILLEGAL PORGRAMS LIKE PIRATED WINDOWS COPY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,IF IT FEELS U ARE IN DANGER IT JUST SHUTS THE WHOLE SYSTEM DOWN
I call trolll unless you have proof?
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To be honest, the speculated clock-for-clock increase doesn't seem leaps and bounds above current i7 offerings considering that you'd have to get a new motherboard as well. Yes, there is an improvement, but IMHO, I'd wait. For video encoding, the SB CPU's are at the top, but typically for proprietary, or expensive software that is designed for multi-thread processing--with current free/cheap video encoding/transcoding software that isn't parallel threaded, the gains will probably be quite a bit less over current i7's (though with the higher turbo frequency with the SB chips, there will still be some gains).

If you can return your 870 without any restocking fees etc., and haven't already purchased a mobo for your 870, it makes the most sense to sit for a month or two and see how things pan out with SB--and if it doesn't look like you need it, then likely the current i7's will have gone down in price a bit more.
Yeah i would do this ^ wait it out a few months 1156 will drop and you can see more of SB, although i did see that a 2600k vs a 950 there was only a 6.9% increase clock for clock and the 950 was at stock and i think the 2600k runs a bit faster? so not much inprovement really .
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Originally Posted by the magical me View Post
I am not asking regarding the overclock ability and whatnot... but I am asking about the new instruction set that is supposed to improve the video conversion and publishing them on the web, which don't exist in the i7s..
also I am asking about the new feature in SB, which gives more advanced 3D display, that's also not existent the i7s too..
All those things mentioned only work if you're using H67 chipset + integrated graphics (only P67 supports overclocking). As you're unlikely to be doing that, I don't think Sandy Bridge is worth the hassle. A lot of stores don't accept CPU returns for refunds so that's another issue.

By the way, Intel doesn't really lower prices on their processors. They just phase them out. Prices on retailers sometimes even climb when they're EOL. There was a time you could easily get the E8400 for $150 on Newegg. Now it's pretty steady at $160~170. The E7500 used to go for $110~115 and now it's at $125.
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Originally Posted by TehStranger? View Post
nah keep ur 860 getting SB is just side-grading, BTW SB HAS A PROTECTION THING AGAINST UTORRENT AND ILLEGAL PORGRAMS LIKE PIRATED WINDOWS COPY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,IF IT FEELS U ARE IN DANGER IT JUST SHUTS THE WHOLE SYSTEM DOWN
I find it odd that in all the reviews and information I have read about SB you are the only person to mention this. Have a link or source?

You can't simply make claims about draconian DRM features without any sort of proof.
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I find it odd that in all the reviews and information I have read about SB you are the only person to mention this. Have a link or source?
There's a whole thread about it, but imho, people are just blowing it way out of proportion. As far as I'm aware, the Kill Switch is just if your PC gets stolen or something.
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...are-level.html
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