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What's up with Xbox? Have they been cracked at this point? I don't remember hearing much.
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Xbox has been cracked for ages.

Whats the big deal with this master key stuff, what does it mean?
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Their platform is now completely exposed and there is nothing that Sony can do to stop it. That's not a great job. When is the PS4 coming out?
That's like saying "Microsoft can't patch this!" and then a week later i see Windows Update pop up with a patch that says it fixes it. They got some great developers, they'll come up with something. In the meantime, their platform is going to get a beating like the PSP1K.

I congratulate them on their efforts after looking at platforms in the past that managed to keep their precious protection for a much shorter period of time.
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Xbox has been cracked for ages.

Whats the big deal with this master key stuff, what does it mean?
anything and everything, Devs can sign there own code, sign eboots, apps etc.

I wonder what Sony will do next? Mandatory online registration and blacklists?
    
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Xbox has been cracked for ages.

Whats the big deal with this master key stuff, what does it mean?
Anyone can sign anything and the PS3 will think it is offical.

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That's like saying "Microsoft can't patch this!" and then a week later i see Windows Update pop up with a patch that says it fixes it. They got some great developers, they'll come up with something. In the meantime, their platform is going to get a beating like the PSP1K.

I congratulate them on their efforts after looking at platforms in the past that managed to keep their precious protection for a much shorter period of time.
No. It doesn't work like that.

This is the code that tells the PS3 if the patch is valid or not. You can't patch the security for patching. If you could, how would you validate if a patch for security patching is valid?

This is a fundamental flaw in their security. It can't be fixed via software.
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So it wont be long before we see pirated games huh?
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I know it was partially answered, but what does this mean? Pirated games I am sure, but the way everyone is acting with PS3 being compromised its like its no longer a usable console, what are the real world ramifications of all this
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This is the code that tells the PS3 if the patch is valid or not. You can't patch the security for patching. If you could, how would you validate if a patch for security patching is valid?

This is a fundamental flaw in their security. It can't be fixed via software.
I'm not saying that it can be fixed so easily. I'm just saying, don't underestimate what a company with lots of money and geeky guys can do. There may be a way to save them. It might not be pretty regardless though.
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I know it was partially answered, but what does this mean? Pirated games I am sure, but the way everyone is acting with PS3 being compromised its like its no longer a usable console, what are the real world ramifications of all this

Anyone can load anything on the PS3 without much effort. There will be no more need for complex workaround or hardware modding. Just download a signed software package and load it.

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I'm not saying that it can be fixed so easily. I'm just saying, don't underestimate what a company with lots of money and geeky guys can do. There may be a way to save them. It might not be pretty regardless though.
Lots of money and geeky guys.... who use a constant in their crypto algorithm....
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So it wont be long before we see pirated games huh?
Pirated games for the PS3 have been out for quite a while. The catch was that you were locked out of PSN because you can't update the firmware.
Now that the master key is out, it'll be possible to use custom firmware and still be able to use PSN, since it'll be signed in such a way that the system will think it's real.
[Edit: Unless Sony start using a call/response detection method like Microsoft did, but even then, the custom firmware will just be updated again to mimic the official firmware responses to bypass detection]

This would probably be a decent time to invest in Sony stocks. As much as I enjoy laughing at their fail, it was an Achilles Heel that brought the Playstation to it's knees - a very small weak point. In the PS4, I've no doubt Sony won't make the same mistake, and that'll lead to an even tougher console to break.
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