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Any help would be greatly appreciated... and thanks in advance.

I have my A+ which I know to some people isn't that much but I've been an enthusiast for years... and this has me scratching my head.

I currently have:
- AMD phenom BE 9850 Overclocked to 2.9 and some odd mhz on an AC 64 Freezer pro...
- MSI k9A2 platinum AM2+ v1.0 pcb mobo
- Kingston ram 4 sticks 4GB at 900 and some odd mhz even thought they are rated at 1066 they are not stable at speed in prime95. Not sure of the issue but I even had problems with my OCZ sticks at 1066 so... i can't put a finger on why my setup wont run 1066... though it will if I only have 2 GB of the kingston in... 2 sticks
- AMD ATI 6870 1 GB HIS overclocked 920 core cant remember the memory but its a healthy overclock. I did as anands website said and overclocked the ram first on the card as that the card benefits more from that...
- 64 GB SSD kingston Boot drive
- 500 GB 7200 rpm wd blue caviar
- 850 ANTEC powersupply 4 12v rails... they still sell the model...
-lianli case... though you dont need to know that...
I will update my specs in my profile in a few... havent gotten to it yet...

What my real question is am I that much CPU limited to do an upgrade. I made this comment about a year ago and people kept telling me no... don't upgrade. I overclock but not heavy... My next rig I want to go all out and do watercooling and have been slowly saving up for bulldozer and upgrading around my mobo and current cpu... really all I have to do is swap in a new cpu, memory, and mobo.

I also read cpu mag and they said a while back that its not that much of an upgrade to go from the original phenom to a phenom 2... which I agree but the overclocking potential is much greater I understand that... would it drop my graphics/gaming performance that much?... I feel I should stick it out... I also feel the phenom 1 isnt as bad as people make it out to be... (especially with it coming out in Q1)

Is my cpu limiting me that much compaired to say a phenom 2.
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What are you doing with your rig?

BD is at soonest going to be April 2011 from what I've heard.
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SANDY BRIDGE! joking bulldozer bulldozer bulldozer all the way.
post #4 of 12
You have gone this long with your current system so at this rate I would honestly try and hold out on Bulldozer. Should definitely be a lot more worthwhile of an upgrade vs going with a Phenom II
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I say wait. I'm not upgrading till UEFI is mainstream.
 
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Thanks guys someone just cussed me out for waiting and said my setup is cpu limited or some crap with my current graphics card... I game... well very little... I do have a 360... hell with my current setup I am quite content. I think the vantage score is very good... it beat my 2x4850's crossfired... I'll lookup the score and post it... but I want to say its just below 14k which I was told was very good...
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Thanks guys someone just cussed me out for waiting and said my setup is cpu limited or some crap with my current graphics card... I game... well very little... I do have a 360... hell with my current setup I am quite content. I think the vantage score is very good... it beat my 2x4850's crossfired... I'll lookup the score and post it... but I want to say its just below 14k which I was told was very good...
That's because your set-up is CPU limited; your graphics card isn't being utilized fully in a large number of applications, but if you just wait four months you can get so much more bang for your buck when you upgrade. As everyone else is saying, if you've already waited this long...
Edited by lonewolf371 - 1/5/11 at 9:26am
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That's because your set-up is CPU limited; your graphics card isn't being utilized fully in a large number of applications, but if you just wait four months you can get so much more bang for your buck when you upgrade. As everyone else is saying, if you've already waited this long...
Really? Maybe I'm just not understanding this whole CPU/GPU limiting factor...

I understand If I had a crappy graphics card... id be gpu limited... but does the CPU limit me that much honestly...

I seen a huge improvement from going from the crossfired 4850's to the 6870... I can understand a small improvement of upgrading the cpu... but I don't think it will be as significant as the original install of the 6870... Sure it'll help I'll give him that but not as much as he thinks... he makes it out to be the end of the world... after all it is a quad core... and 2.9 ghz is nothing to scoff at...

my score was 13,600 at default settings...

edit: 2 years isnt that long btw...
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- AMD ATI 6870 1 GB HIS overclocked 920 core cant remember the memory but its a healthy overclock. I did as anands website said and overclocked the ram first on the card as that the card benefits more from that...
AFAIK, you benefit more from raising the core, alot more
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post #10 of 12
If you're satisfied with gaming performance leave it, it's fine. Or get a Phenom II X4 until Bulldozer or upgrade to Sandy Bridge soon or wait for Ivy Bridge. It's really up to you. You have to decide what performance level you require and how much you want to spend.
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