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So? The amount of energy produced via fusion far outweighs the energy required to produce the hydrogen.
so, once we provide enough fuel to get it started, it will essentially refuel itself and provide power?
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post #32 of 48
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That answers nothing. I asked where, all that defends is the why. In the present, to generate hydrogen you either reform fossil fuels, or use electricity(which will essentially be provided by fossil fuels). So, unless they propose to use solar, wind, tidal or hydro to generate the electricity to produce hydrogen from water, they're going to rely on fossil fuels to drive fusion power.
At first, yes. But after a couple are built, fusion plants will power each other. At which point we can truly erase fossil fuels from our energy sources.
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post #33 of 48
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so, once we provide enough fuel to get it started, it will essentially refuel itself and provide power?

No, what your implying is a perpetual motion machine. The energy released via Fusion is significantly higher than the energy used to free hydrogen molecules for Fusion. Obviously Fusion can not occur ad-infinitum, that's why stars die, but it goes on for a very very long time.
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No, what your implying is a perpetual motion machine. The energy released via Fusion is significantly higher than the energy used to free hydrogen molecules for Fusion. Obviously Fusion can not occur ad-infinitum, that's why stars die, but it goes on for a very very long time.
by refuel I implied that it would provide enough energy to generate the hydrogen required to fuel the reaction. So, with our help it is essentially a perpetual motion machine.
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There was this awful movie on TV the other day where Keaneu Reeves worked at a lab that some Nazis or something blew up.... Something about a drunk girl and a chinese guy... I dunno, I fell asleep. But this reminds me of that....
Chain Reaction...and their "Cold" Fusion machine.
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Didn't North Korea achieve sustainable nuclear fusion as a power source last year?
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That answers nothing. I asked where, all that defends is the why. In the present, to generate hydrogen you either reform fossil fuels, or use electricity(which will essentially be provided by fossil fuels). So, unless they propose to use solar, wind, tidal or hydro to generate the electricity to produce hydrogen from water, they're going to rely on fossil fuels to drive fusion power.
solar, wind, tidal or hydro and fossil, nuclear power relies on fossil fuels(before bessemer charcoal would have been an option), well hydro only has a minor addiction but looking for an energy source that requires no input is a lost cause.

Fusion is the only feasible source of energy besides fossil fuels that we are close to harness. The green alternatives won't keep us alive in space (yes im serious).
 
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We are just playing catch-up with the DPRK (North Korea)!
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We are just playing catch-up with the DPRK (North Korea)!
I was only trolling when I mentioned NK, we knew they were BS'ing us:

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'Highly unlikely'

The dream of overcoming the huge technical challenges to make nuclear fusion commercially viable has so far eluded scientists in Europe, America and China, but they continue to try because the prize is so great: a cheap and abundant source of energy with little environmental impact.

North Korea's claim that it has completed the fundamental research, putting the technology within its grasp, will be dismissed as highly unlikely unless concrete evidence is produced.

Pyongyang says its latest scientific breakthrough coincides with the birthday of the country's founder, and eternal president Kim Il-sung - not the first time it seems that the laws of nature have been bent in his honour.

According to official biographies, when his son, the current leader Kim Jong-il was born, a new star appeared in the sky.
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I was only trolling when I mentioned NK, we knew they were BS'ing us:
As was I
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