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post #11 of 30
I'm still stuck on the motherboard - the lack of 8 pin CPU connection and VRM cooling means that it is a risky decision for a quad core when overclocking. I'm sure at stock it'll be fine, but I'm really concerned about in future.

That combo is an overclocking gamer's dream with the sole exception of stupid motherboard choice. Stupid Newegg making **** difficult.

OP - I really want to recommend the combo build, but it must be tentative and reserved; you should really consider getting this combo AND another motherboard for about $100-150, sell the combo's included motherboard to make some money back (plus get your included rebates) and use the other one. If you can find the extra cash to do so, your build will be BRILLIANT.

This is the motherboard I want to recommend: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131631 - probably the best value for future upgrades; has the latest tech, support for AMD x6 processors and great overclocking potential, with plenty of clean and safe power for overvolting, and plenty of cooling on the chipsets, plus full crossfire support with x8/x8 (shown to barely limit any crossfire/sli solutions available still today).

I'm sure you could even SLI hack for your GTX460 easily.

My serious and final recommendation is the combo, plus this motherboard, and sell the other motherboard to get your money back. Good luck
Edited by willibj - 1/5/11 at 1:50pm
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Edited by RabbitGT - 1/15/11 at 11:32pm
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post #13 of 30
We can't see the shopping cart you posted, post the links separately please.

AMD and crossfire seems to be the best bang4thebuck period, especially the 6850's crossfired, offering staggering performance for low heat, power draw (thus smaller PSU), and especially price.

Also the x6 processors overclocked to 4ghz+, quite easily too, will be more than enough CPU to run a CF 6850 setup unhindered, giving huge performance at very low cost.

You should definitely go with a build that leaves the door open to an x6 CPU upgrade, a 2nd GPU in crossfire upgrade, and doubling the RAM to 8gb upgrade, all in the future when you can afford it.

Be sure to get a good case, motherboard and PSU now, the rest are cheap and easy upgrades honestly - plus with so many AMD processors unlocking 1 or 2 cores, that is an easy way to get more bang4thebuck, and IF you happen to be unable to unlock cores, the overclocked performance of a black edition dual core is still more than enough for MOST of the games out today.
post #14 of 30
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thnx for the input guys ! currently leaning towards this build :

AZZA Solano 1000 Black/Black Japanese SECC Steel/Metal mesh in front ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811517004 114.99$ (20$ mail in rebate)

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM
Item #: N82E16820231278 64.99$

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...
Item #: N82E16835103065 29.99$

ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131631
AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - C3 Revision HDZ555WFGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103846
226.99$ combo

SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Item #: N82E16814102908
RAIDMAX RX-850AE 850W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power ...
Item #: N82E16817152043
259.98$ combo (15$ mail in rebate)

so after rebates i could sqeez a HDD in there to a 700 bucks build
(btw that hd 6850 with a 850w gold PSU for 260 bucks looks too good of a deal , maybe the PSU is a bust ? )
thoughts ?
Edited by RabbitGT - 1/5/11 at 3:27pm
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post #15 of 30
34amps on the 12volt rails in the PSU - not the greatest as far as I'm aware, though I'm by no means a PSU expert. Seems to have good specs except for this. Also tentative about anything Raidmax branded. I would aim for the Corsair 650/750 watt PSU's that are on special at the moment, probably the best purchases out right now.

For 6850's, the bang for the buck is in their overclock ability. Not sure of that Sapphire model's typical range - I know the Sapphire Toxic 6850 has a huge power draw for using the 6870 board with 2x6pin power draw, but the regular version is probably fine. I still lean towards the standard Gigabyte (not overclocked) as the best 6850, but honestly any of them clocked to 950core/1150mem (which all can and will do) performs at stock 6870 levels, so you cannot go wrong.

The choices all look great honestly. That case MIGHT be a problem with the giant side-fan getting in the way of your CPU cooler - you should look into that. For the money, I would try and find an extra $20 and get the NZXT Phantom case which is simply gorgeous and extremely high quality (I cannot afford one, but I'm tempted to get one myself right now anyways haha) ...

In all honesty you should save a little on a slightly smaller and cheaper case like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119196 (sorry to be pedantic, just trying to help) and use that money towards a better PSU and the Gigabyte 6850 (standard, not overclock - it's $10 cheaper and has better vrm chips for voltage overclock to over 1ghz), even if they're not in a combo.
Edited by willibj - 1/5/11 at 4:01pm
post #16 of 30
I love the motherboard as its really easy to use and works really well on overclocking and has an unlocker built in.

Overall, thats a pretty good build! Good luck with it!
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post #17 of 30
The Rosewill Armor case has a special $10off code right now:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147047

This Lian-Li is an option too, though additional fans are required to fill in the space at the top (2x140mm I believe):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112238

I'm in the market for a case and trying to decide also ...
post #18 of 30
Hey just wanted to say the original case (the thermaltake armor 90 one) is great! I have it, and it has 2 120mm fans and one HUGE fan on the top. It has plenty of room, and the cables can be put in the extra drive bay slots, my x6 1075t oc at 4ghz doesn't go above 51C on Full load on occt and prime 95 with that case and a corsair h50. It is a nice inexpensive case and I recommend it.
post #19 of 30
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Originally Posted by RabbitGT View Post
thnx for the input guys ! currently leaning towards this build :

AZZA Solano 1000 Black/Black Japanese SECC Steel/Metal mesh in front ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811517004 114.99$ (20$ mail in rebate)

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM
Item #: N82E16820231278 64.99$

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...
Item #: N82E16835103065 29.99$

ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131631
AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - C3 Revision HDZ555WFGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103846
226.99$ combo

SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Item #: N82E16814102908
RAIDMAX RX-850AE 850W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power ...
Item #: N82E16817152043
259.98$ combo (15$ mail in rebate)

so after rebates i could sqeez a HDD in there to a 700 bucks build
(btw that hd 6850 with a 850w gold PSU for 260 bucks looks too good of a deal , maybe the PSU is a bust ? )
thoughts ?
This RAM has better latencies for the same price (or this RAM, but the G.Skill can manage same timings and I don't prefer OCZ)

I don't recommend RAIDMAX PSUs (try this XFX 750W - fully modular, reliable/Seasonic built, lower price)
post #20 of 30
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Originally Posted by joeykrug View Post
Hey just wanted to say the original case (the thermaltake armor 90 one) is great! I have it, and it has 2 120mm fans and one HUGE fan on the top. It has plenty of room, and the cables can be put in the extra drive bay slots, my x6 1075t oc at 4ghz doesn't go above 51C on Full load on occt and prime 95 with that case and a corsair h50. It is a nice inexpensive case and I recommend it.
It's a decent beginner case, but will inevitably be outgrown by a serious user. And considering the size and features available, it is well overpriced by about 40%. The CM Storm Scout for the same price is MUCH better, an HAF 912 with an additional fan or two is better value also, or the Rosewill Challenger is a steal for the feature set.

For ease of build, there are better performing, more flexible and cheaper options available, but you are right, if the OP decided on it, it wouldn't be the worst case scenario.

An inexpensive case, it is not though and frankly not a wise option in any situation.

The Antec 300 Illusion is <$60 right now on Newegg with no shipping charge, comes with 3x120mm fans and 1x140mm fan and has just as little cable management space. The only difference is brand, external looks and black internal paint job.

Cases can be the longest lasting component of a build - best to get it right the first time, and these days there's no reason to purchase a case over $50 that doesn't have cable management cut aways and a larger component bay space.

Cheap option - get the Rosewill Challenger.
Mid-range option - get the CM Storm Scout
High range option - get the NZXT Phantom or Corsair 600T
Expensive option - get a Corsair 800D or high end Lian-Li

*Edit* - this is a good option for the price too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119216
Edited by willibj - 1/5/11 at 6:23pm
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