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Well they have to be cheap to make and cheap to sell. But, it's true, I personally don't feel too great selling something that has caused other people tears and bloodshed.
jeez then how do you eat? lol
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Take a look at the video I posted. Nothing looked wrong to me at that Gigabyte factory....
I watched it. No, it looked fine. But if Foxconn was under the gun of a camera, do you think they'd show the messed up part?

But the Gigabyte line didn't look too bad, no.
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Supermicro perhaps has the best quality of any manufacture; the only con is that they don't cater to the enthusiasts so their name is not commonly mentioned on such sites (like OCN ).

I would give them a serious look.
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I watched it. No, it looked fine. But if Foxconn was under the gun of a camera, do you think they'd show the messed up part?

But the Gigabyte line didn't look too bad, no.
And also, to be honest. Foxconn is a huge company. Who says that it's people killing themselves because they are making motherboards. What if it's the people that are working on Apple products?

To be honest, I know where you're coming from. But it's something that one person can't change. To be honest, you're going to find that any company that you choose. Uses a factory and is similar to Foxconn.

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Supermicro perhaps has the best quality of any manufacture; the only con is that they don't cater to the enthusiasts so their name is not commonly mentioned on such sites (like OCN ).

I would give them a serious look.
Love your avatar.
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And also, to be honest. Foxconn is a huge company. Who says that it's people killing themselves because they are making motherboards. What if it's the people that are working on Apple products?

To be honest, I know where you're coming from. But it's something that one person can't change. To be honest, you're going to find that any company that you choose. Uses a factory and is similar to Foxconn.



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Agreed, And yes I have a few foxconn products in use all bought before these issues came to light, though they wont shift my future purchases either way.
    
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There's nothing wrong with you having an ethical business! It may ultimately affect profits, but it may also help with sales... I can't attest to any of the Foxconn issues, I have neither read enough on them or had immediate contact with them, but the quality of their product is also an important consideration. Perhaps you could offer both and attempt to better inform your consumers? Some may opt for a cheaper rig, others may want to demonstrate their principles.
I can attest to the Foxcon issue, but I have not read the whole thread yet.

Don't believe the hype you read in western media. Foxcon is actually one of the best companies to work for in China. They pay higher than any of the dozens of exactly similar factories in the same area that you heard they had troubles. They are actively sought after for pay, working conditions and benefits. They do all they can to help keep their workers happy and productive.

Just one example: You may have heard that some people committed suicide "for some reason". And it was made to look that Foxcon was both unsafe and depressing. It turned out that most of the problem was that their death benefit was TOO HIGH! They tried may things to stop it with out lowering benefits but they did not work. Once they added an no self inflicted injury clause to the benefits they whole issue stopped.

But they did not stop there. They also started a big move to help the #2 problem their workers have, the fact that they have to live so far from home. They are using Chinese government incentives to move factories inland.

So remember that ethics start at home and knowledge is power.
 
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Kip69 is absolutely correct. Working at Foxconn is way better than working out on a field. Not to mention the pay is higher and sometimes the living conditions is much nicer, even though. To us, it may seem like rubbish. There are many people trying to get a job there and are willing to wait and wait because they know it's way better than working on a farm.

I just watched a video about it. And what Kip69 said, tends to be true after watching the video.
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I wouldn't buy Foxconn because of all the suicides.
Frankly, I bet majority of those suicides is because Foxconn paid the families of the employees who committed suicide and not because of any maltreatment.
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Lol, most boards have parts from foxconn, most cell phones have parts from them, don't worry everyone has something from them almost.
    
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Yes, best company to work for in China but that "best" is pretty low standard. But then again, you can't expect anything better from mainland China or Taiwan.

With China manipulating the currency so they can export all their junk to the US, you can't expect those workers working 24/7 not to commit suicide.
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