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I'm sorry but 200 for a steel mid-tower is a RIPOFF. Please justify your pricing.
Pricing will be justified (or not) based on sales, and is up to the individual buyer. It's like this with anything you can purchase. Why buy a Mercedes Benz when a Hyundai Genesis has all the same features plus a better warranty for 2/3 the price? Why eat at a local diner when Carl's Jr/Hardees has the Six Dollar Burger? Well, some may choose the more expensive option while others choose the budget option. The operative word is "choose." Isn't it nice to have a choice? In mother Russia, case chooses you!
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So what corsair is basically saying is that we are going to sell you something made from a inferior material but then price it along with the aluminum cases?
What Corsair is saying is we're going to build a case based on features, performance, and appearance, and price it competitively with other things in the market.

The Lian-Li cases you linked are great cases, but I think we've got them beat from a feature set and aesthetics point of view. You're free to vote with your dollars however you'd like, though.

Not to be catty - but I don't feel it's fair to ask us to "justify" pricing. We've done that by pointing out the feature set, ease of use, and performance, as well as the looks.

I've used the PC-P50 before - it's a great case. But having used it and put the same hardware in the 650D, I can tell you straight up that the 650D is better in:
-Hard drive installation
-Cooling
-Customization (hard drive bays can be reconfigured)
-Cable routing
-Clean looks after install due to hidden screws, cables, etc.
-CPU backplate cutout area
-Room for bigger video cards
-Easy side panel access
-Black interior looks better (might not be important to some)

Some of that is subjective, but all of it adds a few bucks here or there.

To be honest, the other thing, cost-wise, that is hard to gauge is the shipping costs. Since just about everyone's cases are made at factories in China (with some in Taiwan instead), the logistics of producing a computer case, putting it in a cardboard box with foam padding, and then putting them into a shipping container and shipping it around the world adds significant cost. It's not huge with something smaller like power supplies. We can fit thousands of PSUs into a 40 foot container. But when you're talking cases, you're talking in the hundreds. You can easily add 10% of the cost of actual chassis just in shipping costs if you're not careful. The 650D (and 600T) are wider than a lot of cases, and require a wider box than some. The width means that container quantities aren't as high as other, thinner cases. But it adds room for cable routing, and it adds room for full height tower heatsinks with fans. So we know going in that we're going to take a hit on shipping.

So if you don't like our case pricing, I totally understand. $200 is a lot for a case, and if you'd rather trade features for build materials, that's fine. I never expected everyone in the world would miraculously love every product I design.

But to be honest, I've used just about all the top chassis out there, and if I didn't work for Corsair, I'd tell you exactly how I felt about who's good and who sucks, and you'd probably be surprised by some of it. Even though we haven't even been selling cases for 2 years yet (800D launched in September of 2009) we've learned a lot and realized there are tons of improvements that can be made in the industry.

We also realize that the vast, vast majority of people don't spend $200 on a computer case, and we're not ignoring that fact.

But I think we're doing okay so far. There are a lot of new competitors in the arena (Fractal Design, BitFenix, etc) but we have some solid engineers on our team, and we're not content to let sleeping dogs lie.
post #173 of 4826
650d only $170 at microcenter
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650d only $170 at microcenter
the price changed back to 199 and there's none in stock atm unless I missed something =[
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I like the case. But i don't know if it's worth 200 Dollars.
Yep. I really want it...but not really now.
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First post! According to UPS my 650D will be waiting for me at my back door when I get home from work.
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Oh wait....I am wondering if Corsair 650D actually copied from SilverStone TJ08 that has SECC body and Aluminum front panel, But C-650D has a litte different design, size and price?
Edited by GAMERIG - 3/9/11 at 1:33pm
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post #178 of 4826
I tend to agree with George on features. No other case brand looks as effortless to work in. Unfortunately they are high priced and poor cooling performers. Maybe the first review of the 650D will show that at least the cooling part has changed.
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I tend to agree with George on features. No other case brand looks as effortless to work in. Unfortunately they are high priced and poor cooling performers. Maybe the first review of the 650D will show that at least the cooling part has changed.
I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised with the cooling performance.
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I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised with the cooling performance.
Good, then the 650d and arc midi will battle for my case dollar.
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