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you're temps aren't that bad at all for the cooler and speed you are running.

One key question here though, is what is your ambient?
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Thanks for the feedback everyone! I think, though, I have found the reason for my throttling... according to this thread on the AMD forums it would seem my mosfets may be overheating under the load, which makes sense to me as they would be drawing 150w+ for the CPU. I will be looking into putting a heatsink over those.

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you're temps aren't that bad at all for the cooler and speed you are running.

One key question here though, is what is your ambient?
How would I measure my ambient?
    
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Ok so here is my board:



I need a mosfet heatsink for it. Here are my choices:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835708015
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835708011

I would prefer to use the first on with some thermal adhesive (no holes in my board for heatsink mount...), but I am worried about that capacitor(?) between the second and third set of mosfets getting in the way. Would the second set of heatsinks work adequately?
    
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If you can put a fan over even the bare mosfets you'd likely be fine. With the second enzotech sinks and a fan you'd almost certainly be good to go.
    
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If in doubt, use HWMonitor, compare the core temps and CPUTIN temps. Under load, the CPUTIN temp will be about 10c higher, but Core temperatures are more accurate.
Core temps for k10 amd chips isn't an actual temp reading, its tctl which is an arbitrary scale that controls the cooling of the computer that uses c as its measurement. cpu socket temp is the only temp that matters.(on that note, the temp reading issue is referring to tctl as well so op does not need to add 10 to the cpu socket temp.)
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If you can put a fan over even the bare mosfets you'd likely be fine. With the second enzotech sinks and a fan you'd almost certainly be good to go.
Hmmm ok I will have to look into doing that, think I need some zip ties or something then. If I get the first heat sink it will be tall enough to be in the line of the fans blowing through the 212, that is still an option.
    
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Hmmm ok I will have to look into doing that, think I need some zip ties or something then. If I get the first heat sink it will be tall enough to be in the line of the fans blowing through the 212, that is still an option.
I've seen quite a few people use these if they needed fans for their 'fets: http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CC0Q8wIwAg#

Expensive, but it might be easier to get positioned than zip ties
    
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Hey all, I am trying to get my overclock stable and I noticed I am getting high temperatures. I have my Phenom II x6 sitting under a Hyper 212+ with AS5 applied (has spread nicely each time I apply a rice-sized portion to it), but while sitting in the BIOS I am getting about 41C, and from what I have read that is probably more like 51C because of the temp bug in the Phenom x6s.

I have tried reseating the cooler twice now and cannot get the temps any lower and it is causing my computer to crash (or at least throttle) when OC'd. Currently I am overclocked to ~4ghz with 1.44v reported in BIOS.

Any tips on what I should try? I am hearing conflicting things on using the Hyper 212 with the x6, so let me know if it is the cooler...

Thanks!
remember, less thermal compound is better (how did you spread it, i hope you just put a tiny dot then seated heatsink with pressure...) dont finger spread, im getting 35 at idle when overclocked (3.6) on stock cooling...

In bios temps are right, its only programs in windows you need to up by 10 degrees.

I get 25 degrees idle in windows, meaning 35 degrees idle actual temp.

Idle temps dont matter, what are you under load?
post #29 of 40
Foget zip ties and just get an overclock your cooler can handle or just get a better cooler.

Do you really need 4ghz or is it just a number that you wanna reach cos 'everyone else' seems to?

your cooler capable of around 3.8-3.9 max i believe any higher too much voltage required and your cooler wont handle it.

Great VALUE FOR MONEY cooler, not great cooler, some people get lucky and get 4Ghz on it cos they got a good chip.
I would recommend a high NB overclock at about 3.8 for you better than a low NB at 4ghz. ( higher NB = gaming performance)

Hope I helped good luck with the OC.
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I've got that very same board as a back up rig listed in my user info, (it was used as my first experience OC'ing too) there is even pics (in my gallery) of some Mosfet HS's going on as well as a 80mm fan pointed directly at the NB and SB HS. It's what I ran with my PH II x2 555 BE at 4009MHz. Experience has told me that an M4A785-M will NOT last very long with a Hexcore at 4.0 lol. Look at the size of the SB HS. VERY tiny and I'll bet it's almost ready to catch fire with that much power going through that board. Than lets remember it only has 4 to 1 power phase as well. 6 cores plus 4 to1 power phase = BANG! Sorry man I'm truly not trying to be rude here, just telling it the way it is. Try touching either the SB HS or the mosfets (not really) I'll bet they'll burn the heck out of you. I would STRONGLY suggest backing that OC down a long ways if you want to keep that mobo alive very long. It is a great budget board, I've built 4 of them in the last 2 years and they perform real well, but their definitely not intended to OC a Hexacore very high at all. I felt I was pushing mine pretty hard by just OC'ing a dual core at 4.0. If you really want to OC that hex, save your money and get a better board that can handle it. Again I'm not trying to come across as a dick here ok? Just sharing what I know!
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