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I don't stop by for a few days, come back, and there's TONS of pics. OMGOMGOMG

Hey, Caselabs, just wondering, would there be an option for a window on the right panel?
ALSO, what about windows in the TOP? Ala Murdermod almost...
example of top window



So, I'm gonna be selling my soul, my kidney, and possibly my PS3 for this. I hope that's an acceptable solution.

God... this case is ******* awesome.
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I don't stop by for a few days, come back, and there's TONS of pics. OMGOMGOMG

Hey, Caselabs, just wondering, would there be an option for a window on the right panel?
ALSO, what about windows in the TOP? Ala Murdermod almost...
example of top window



So, I'm gonna be selling my soul, my kidney, and possibly my PS3 for this. I hope that's an acceptable solution.

God... this case is ******* awesome.
LOL - Thanks! Right side window is a no brainer - we'll add that in the next few days. Top is a little trickier because of the rad cutouts - the window(s) would have to be relatively small. We'll have to see how much demand is out there for that. In the interim, someone could always order a solid top and cut their own window.
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LOL - Thanks! Right side window is a no brainer - we'll add that in the next few days. Top is a little trickier because of the rad cutouts - the window(s) would have to be relatively small. We'll have to see how much demand is out there for that. In the interim, someone could always order a solid top and cut their own window.

What if the rad cutouts were cut out completely FOR the window? I mean, there's already a huge amount of cooling potential in the case... Cutting out the top rad area and mounting a window would be pretty easy (for someone as skilled as your group.) Just a thought.

My boss just walked by and asked "what do you need that for?" I told her that she's fired. She's now back in her office contemplating firing me. LOL.
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LOL - Thanks! Right side window is a no brainer - we'll add that in the next few days. Top is a little trickier because of the rad cutouts - the window(s) would have to be relatively small. We'll have to see how much demand is out there for that. In the interim, someone could always order a solid top and cut their own window.
MMMM Side windows with all the aforementioned cutouts/ventilation - now that would catch MY interest

Wish list stuff since I am here just for the ventilation and watercooling mounts and fan mounts muahahaha - but yea panel windows that has similar ventilation and mounting on both sides would be SICK.
    
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What if the rad cutouts were cut out completely FOR the window? I mean, there's already a huge amount of cooling potential in the case... Cutting out the top rad area and mounting a window would be pretty easy (for someone as skilled as your group.) Just a thought.

My boss just walked by and asked "what do you need that for?" I told her that she's fired. She's now back in her office contemplating firing me. LOL.
Changing the outer cover isn't a huge deal, but changing the chassis itself is more complicated in terms of production control and inventory management. Although not really relevant here, the TX10 comes very close to what I believe you're talking about. It uses drop in rad mounts. Because of that, it has large rectangular openings. They were in the original spec for the M8/M10 but were dropped due to cost issues. We may take another look at that down the road...
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MMMM Side windows with all the aforementioned cutouts/ventilation - now that would catch MY interest

Wish list stuff since I am here just for the ventilation and watercooling mounts and fan mounts muahahaha - but yea panel windows that has similar ventilation and mounting on both sides would be SICK.
Whatever the customer likes - we like Help me to understand though - it might be possible to perforate the area above and below the window for ventilation. Is that kind of what you're thinking?

I have to say that I'm not (personally) a huge fan of adding holes/mesh for airflow purposes. I know that's the current rage in cases today, but what you really want is directed air flow, which is difficult or impossible with large vent areas. In over 30 years, I have yet to see any military, industrial, or medical enclosure that is actively cooled (i.e. fans) that have any perf/mesh areas outside of what's needed for the fans themselves. Many of those applications are in far more severe environments.

I know we have lots of holes in our covers, but they're needed if you going to mount rads. The holes on the left side are to support a special 4 fan mount (hinged) that goes there. One of the reasons we offer solid panels is to allow better control of air flow. It's also why all the large openings in the chassis itself ship with covers - better control.
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Whatever the customer likes - we like Help me to understand though - it might be possible to perforate the area above and below the window for ventilation. Is that kind of what you're thinking?

I have to say that I'm not (personally) a huge fan of adding holes/mesh for airflow purposes. I know that's the current rage in cases today, but what you really want is directed air flow, which is difficult or impossible with large vent areas. In over 30 years, I have yet to see any military, industrial, or medical enclosure that is actively cooled (i.e. fans) that have any perf/mesh areas outside of what's needed for the fans themselves. Many of those applications are in far more severe environments.

I know we have lots of holes in our covers, but they're needed if you going to mount rads. The holes on the left side are to support a special 4 fan mount (hinged) that goes there. One of the reasons we offer solid panels is to allow better control of air flow. It's also why all the large openings in the chassis itself ship with covers - better control.
I agree - the only holes/perforations I would want in a windowed side panel or top would be strictly where I would be mounting the rads or fans!

My vision would be a windowed top with the top mount rad cutouts and a windowed side panel that could accommodate the side mounted rad or more likely fan mountings - nothing overdone- just a way to maintain the rad mountings AND still show off the internal works - basically a windowed version of the current perforated panels so to speak.
    
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Whatever the customer likes - we like Help me to understand though - it might be possible to perforate the area above and below the window for ventilation. Is that kind of what you're thinking?

I have to say that I'm not (personally) a huge fan of adding holes/mesh for airflow purposes. I know that's the current rage in cases today, but what you really want is directed air flow, which is difficult or impossible with large vent areas. In over 30 years, I have yet to see any military, industrial, or medical enclosure that is actively cooled (i.e. fans) that have any perf/mesh areas outside of what's needed for the fans themselves. Many of those applications are in far more severe environments.

I know we have lots of holes in our covers, but they're needed if you going to mount rads. The holes on the left side are to support a special 4 fan mount (hinged) that goes there. One of the reasons we offer solid panels is to allow better control of air flow. It's also why all the large openings in the chassis itself ship with covers - better control.
Nope, I agree. Mesh/holes all over is over-used and uglier than sin. No need to make the M8 look like Antec crapped all over it.

Do you have pics, or can you take some of the hinged fan mount with fans on it? I think I can visualize what you're saying but I want to really see it, if that's not a huge problem.

Sorry, i know you're busting your ass to get this out and I don't mean to clutter your day with questions and such. I'm just all giddy, like a drunk school-girl on prom night....
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Nope, I agree. Mesh/holes all over is over-used and uglier than sin. No need to make the M8 look like Antec crapped all over it.

Do you have pics, or can you take some of the hinged fan mount with fans on it? I think I can visualize what you're saying but I want to really see it, if that's not a huge problem.

Sorry, i know you're busting your ass to get this out and I don't mean to clutter your day with questions and such. I'm just all giddy, like a drunk school-girl on prom night....
Ask away - no problem It''s still in development, so it will probably be a week or so until we have pictures of it, but maybe I can describe it a little better. It takes four 120mm fans in a 2 x 2 arrangement. The fans line up with the ventilation slots on the door panel. It attaches to the left side mounting holes with thumbscrews. Releasing one thumbscrew allows the entire assembly to swing back out of the way. It also has wire management so the fan leads aren't left dangling in the breeze It will be made of 18 gauge steel (aluminum isn't strong enough in this case). Size is approx 10.5" wide and 11.25" high. The mounting holes allow it to be adjusted vertically so it will clear cooling towers, etc.

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Are there any options for the second psu opening? If you only used one psu and had no cover or something it would just be a large hole in the case.

Looks great! Thanks for the new pics.
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