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I know touch sensors are the new "thing" but do we really need them in every device possible?

I'll keep my mx mouse, couldn't live with out its scroll wheel.
I wish they made a wired version of this mouse. It's so godamn comfy... Throw in a 5600DPI twin lazer, a USB cable, and that thing would be the ultimate.
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That's only because you already know how a Windows OS functions, you're applying Windows functions, features and mentality to OS X, that's why you find it confusing. I can use both OSes equally well, from keyboard shortcuts to hotkeys, from that standpoint, I think OS X is easier to use.
Same here, I can use both as well (windows at work, Mac at home) and OSX is definitely easier to use. Many folks here play around with a Mac for 15 minutes and give up because there's no start menu. They're simply not familiar with a different OS, therefore it must be inferior.


As far as the Magic Mouse, I'm not a particularly huge fan of it, just because of it's slim profile. And it's miserable to use for gaming. But in general use however I've gotten used to it. About the only gesture I use is the 2 finger swipe to navigate in web browsers and that's about it. Might sound menial but it is quite convenient and you miss it on regular mice.
 
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How on EARTH can you make your hand comfortable on something that has 1/3rd the profile of a typical mouse?

That's just it, you don't. You barely touch a Magic Mouse.

Put your mouse aside and just rest your hand on your desk, cupped like the mouse is there but with your fingertips touching the desk. Now go through the mouse basic mouse movements. Flick your index finger to scroll as if a scroll wheel were there. That's what using the Magic Mouse is like. At rest, or while moving the cursor around the screen, only my thumb and little finger lightly touch the mouse to guide it. My index finger brushes it lightly to scroll up or down and the index/second fingers move down to right/left click. It's all very comfortable and natural once you get used to not resting your hand *on* your mouse.
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Same here, I can use both as well (windows at work, Mac at home) and OSX is definitely easier to use. Many folks here play around with a Mac for 15 minutes and give up because there's no start menu. They're simply not familiar with a different OS, therefore it must be inferior.


As far as the Magic Mouse, I'm not a particularly huge fan of it, just because of it's slim profile. And it's miserable to use for gaming. But in general use however I've gotten used to it. About the only gesture I use is the 2 finger swipe to navigate in web browsers and that's about it. Might sound menial but it is quite convenient and you miss it on regular mice.
Umm no. I used MacOSX for around 7 months exclusively at work and home. I actually liked it a lot more when I just dabbled in it here and there at school and peoples computers. That's why I wanted a MacBook Pro when I got my new job. After actually using it to do productive things I couldn't stand it. When I finally switched back to Windows I felt like a weight had been lifted.
    
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Umm no. I used MacOSX for around 7 months exclusively at work and home. I actually liked it a lot more when I just dabbled in it here and there at school and peoples computers. That's why I wanted a MacBook Pro when I got my new job. After actually using it to do productive things I couldn't stand it. When I finally switched back to Windows I felt like a weight had been lifted.
What's sorts of productive things?
 
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What's sorts of productive things?
Coding(Java, Php, javascript, Java EE with icefaces), database entry, web site design, query writing, employee help using Team Viewer, mail server maintenance (fedora).

Then at home. Music production using Ableton Live.

It was the database entry and query writing that pushed me over the edge. The Windows 7 taskbar and the way windows handles windows is much easier. When I start my day I have several things I have to add or change to a database. I get these in an email or a jira update. It's much easier to switch between windows in Windows.

The mouse movement, terrible font rendering, and the terrible dock is what put the nail on the coffin.

Not to mention I actually like the Windows Live products(Mail and Photo to be exact). I like Visual Studio. I like Expression way more than Dreamweaver. Just things like that. I like explorer way more than finder. I like windows search way more than spotlight.

We've had these discussions already though.

It comes down to one more thing. The dock. It's to big to keep on screen and it's to slow to come up when it's hidden. Time the Windows taskbar hiding/showing compared to the dock hiding/showing. It's terrible. Not to mention there is no way to manage windows. Don't tell me expose because throwing up every window in an un organized fashion is not windows management.

The UI makes more sense in Windows. Why do you think KDE, Gnome, XFCE use the same window paradigm. Because it works. It has a few short comings, but in the end it works much better and is more consistent.
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So personal preference then is all.
 
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Seems really cool, but could you program the gestures as inputs? Like change what each gesture does, or set it to a key? Would use it at work, but I want all my mouse buttons for gaming.
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So personal preference then is all.
Na. The windows paradigm makes much more sense in Windows than in MacOSX. It's just that MacOSX users are forced to think backwards for most things so that's why they get used to it.
    
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Na. The windows paradigm makes much more sense in Windows than in MacOSX. It's just that MacOSX users are forced to think backwards for most things so that's why they get used to it.
Makes more sense...to you.

I'm not trying to be a prick, but I dont see how it isnt personal preference. That's your opinion on what works for you. And that's perfectly fine, but what works best for you might not for someone else. You can't be egocentric with such broad statements. Like me saying OSX is easier to use; that's my opinion. Might not be the case for the rest of the world. lol
 
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