Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Engadget] Microsoft Touch Mouse unveiled, available for $80 in June
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Engadget] Microsoft Touch Mouse unveiled, available for $80 in June - Page 5

post #41 of 52
First - I think MS has put forth a pretty good effort with the Touch Mouse. It is far better than the Arc Mouse, which is worse than Apple's Mighty Mouse. The MM was, in my opinion, the first real turd Apple put on the market - feels cheap, and gums up in a month of regular use. I think the TM is a good second choice to a Logitech mouse - but it will be a while until the TM is in the market.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dham View Post
Coding(Java, Php, javascript, Java EE with icefaces), database entry, web site design, query writing, employee help using Team Viewer, mail server maintenance (fedora).
The problem with Apple is that they have a sealed off platform. The applications it does have are pretty good, and are fairly troublefree - but there are too few applications available. It is because Apple is so restrictuve. You can't just install a programming language or compiler and make something useful - you get stuck with their oddball XTools, and lock3ed in to whatever versions of OSX they feel like supporting today.

It is frustrating to have an Apple that, hardware wise, is more stable and reliable than the equivalent PC products - but then to be locked in without possibilities of upgrades or whatever, and to be without the most common of programming tools, utterly reliant upon the few developers that actually bother porting - and to find out those ports will only run on some specific and expensive new hardware. It is also frustrating to have a company design some products that might be attractive, but stiffed with undesirable features - like cheezy LCDs that don't make the grade and are riddled with defects, lack of ability to add a second hard drive except on the most expensive model, the lack of video card options, the lack of ability to reduce OS bloat and stiffed with running stuff you don't want, and so on. And then to have all of this coupled with some oddball, obscure compiler that can't handle anything that is industry standard.

As for the workplace, Apple is really out of the market, and they don't seem to care. No accounting packages, no standard databases, oddball implementations of Citrix that Enterprises do not often support, and no easy way of getting developers into the loop. What Apple is good at is packaging a few choice applications - although they jumped the shark with many of them - iTunes is now a bloated wretch that attempts to be an entire OS in itself, for example. Apple is also very restrictive to allowing high speed, low latency IO access - which busts the machine for the data acquision crowd - something that has nothing to do with any hardware restriction, but rather, the Big Brother paranoia of OSX and the weakness of XTools.

Quote:
It was the database entry and query writing that pushed me over the edge. The Windows 7 taskbar and the way windows handles windows is much easier.
Win7 taskbar is less brain damaged than it's predecessors - but is still brain damaged. The only salvation that OSX has is Expose, which does a good job at cloaking all of the window control brain damage Apple carries forth. Neither system is "Easier" - both are awful when it comes to window control.

The one advantage that OSX has is the ability to drag objects off of one window and onto the desktop or into another window - all without the bag of hurt that Save Target As has long been.

Quote:
The mouse movement, terrible font rendering, and the terrible dock is what put the nail on the coffin.
OSX does not come with very good mouse control software - but that was nullified on my system years ago when I went to Logitech and the LCC software that improved that. The old touchpad on my iBook is far superior in operation when compared the the multitouch garbage they use now on the MacBook, and the new touchpad is one of the main dealbreakers that has me shopping for a PC laptop these days.

Font rendering is variable - there are a bunch of features that need to be toggled. Apple does a bad job at setting the defaults, but with the right tools, font rendering is superior to Windows. But it is not an easy road to get to, especially if one is saddled with a Mac that has one of the deficient screens that has to dither everything. Also, all Mac models have obsolete video cards, whereas many PC users have migrated to modern video cards -especially in the OCN universe.

Apple does a terrible job at the Dock. the Dock is pretty useful, and entirely usable, and I prefer it to the space hog that Task Bar is. However, you can not make the Dock usable with the tools Apple gives you - you have to have aftermarket Haxies that do it right. Even then, there is the hurdle of the Genie or Scale effect, which is resource robbing bling that really should be shut off. The Dock has even more brain damage, now that they have stiffed wisers with Stacks - a utility which emits large volumes of barf all over the screen in one easy mouse click. I can certainly see why people would prefer the brain damage that s the Taskbar to that of the Dock - especially when Apple obscures or simply does not allow people to make the settings that make the Dock useful without barfing all over the screen.

Quote:
The dock. It's to big to keep on screen and it's to slow to come up when it's hidden.
That is simply a setting problem - but not a simple one to solve because Apple does not provide the appropriate tools to make it useful.

Quote:
Not to mention there is no way to manage windows. Don't tell me expose because throwing up every window in an un organized fashion is not windows management.
OSX has carried forward a substantial amount of brain damage when it comes to window management. What always bugged me was the inability to Maximize with one click, the hard to find target to dragging the window larger, and the fact that I can't drag the bottom left corner around. Arranging windows in OSX is a hassle.

I think Finder has the potential to be better than Explorer - but again, OSX has carried through a number of annoyances that make it brain damaged. I always though the inability to do batch renaming of files to be particularly brain damaged - and sure, one can get aftermerket software to do that - but file naming should be something easy-peasy for an OS.

Spotlight is a deal killer - absolute rubbish when compared to even something simple as Find. Apple claims more "speed", but really, when I want to Find something, I want to find the actual file, not some entry in a metafile database that Big Brother keeps compiling on each and every thing I do.

Quote:
It has a few short comings, but in the end it works much better and is more consistent.
Apple, for a company that really built itself on GUIs - does not put forth a very good GUI.

Windows is it's own attrocity, and differs only in the different kinds of brain damage it brings forth. But then, at least MS did not run with the BOB paradigm - because that was truly the worst GUI ever...
post #42 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by EvanPitts View Post
First - I think MS has put forth a pretty good effort with the Touch Mouse. It is far better than the Arc Mouse, which is worse than Apple's Mighty Mouse. The MM was, in my opinion, the first real turd Apple put on the market - feels cheap, and gums up in a month of regular use. I think the TM is a good second choice to a Logitech mouse - but it will be a while until the TM is in the market.



The problem with Apple is that they have a sealed off platform. The applications it does have are pretty good, and are fairly troublefree - but there are too few applications available. It is because Apple is so restrictuve. You can't just install a programming language or compiler and make something useful - you get stuck with their oddball XTools, and lock3ed in to whatever versions of OSX they feel like supporting today.

It is frustrating to have an Apple that, hardware wise, is more stable and reliable than the equivalent PC products - but then to be locked in without possibilities of upgrades or whatever, and to be without the most common of programming tools, utterly reliant upon the few developers that actually bother porting - and to find out those ports will only run on some specific and expensive new hardware. It is also frustrating to have a company design some products that might be attractive, but stiffed with undesirable features - like cheezy LCDs that don't make the grade and are riddled with defects, lack of ability to add a second hard drive except on the most expensive model, the lack of video card options, the lack of ability to reduce OS bloat and stiffed with running stuff you don't want, and so on. And then to have all of this coupled with some oddball, obscure compiler that can't handle anything that is industry standard.

As for the workplace, Apple is really out of the market, and they don't seem to care. No accounting packages, no standard databases, oddball implementations of Citrix that Enterprises do not often support, and no easy way of getting developers into the loop. What Apple is good at is packaging a few choice applications - although they jumped the shark with many of them - iTunes is now a bloated wretch that attempts to be an entire OS in itself, for example. Apple is also very restrictive to allowing high speed, low latency IO access - which busts the machine for the data acquision crowd - something that has nothing to do with any hardware restriction, but rather, the Big Brother paranoia of OSX and the weakness of XTools.

Personally, after using Xcode 4, I find it to be a fairly good product. Of course I'm a netbeans guy mostly since coming into a job where that's all we use all day. Netbeans follows more of the Visual Studio pattern and I think that's why I like it. I wouldn't use XCode anyway to do anything. If I wanted to code iPhone games I would use a 3rd party utility to do that. Such as dragonfire sdk. I find Objective-C to be the most ugliest language I've ever seen.

I do find some of the patterns it uses very useful in gui programming though. The whole messages things works very, very well. I just find the syntax too ugly to use.

Anyway we just use touchfaces to develop iPhone like interfaces on the web. It's much easier, you can use java, and people don't have to download your application to use it.

http://www.primefaces.org/showcase/touch/index.jsf




Win7 taskbar is less brain damaged than it's predecessors - but is still brain damaged. The only salvation that OSX has is Expose, which does a good job at cloaking all of the window control brain damage Apple carries forth. Neither system is "Easier" - both are awful when it comes to window control.

Ehh. I can't agree with you there. The windows taskbar is single handedly the best thing for handling windows. I don't think there is a better approach frankly and I've sat in bed thinking about it. From one single glance at the taskbar you can see what program is in focus(not on Dock), if the program has multiple windows open(Dock can't do that), you can see notifications, you can launch a program, and have access to program specific menus with a right click.

The one advantage that OSX has is the ability to drag objects off of one window and onto the desktop or into another window - all without the bag of hurt that Save Target As has long been.

OSX does not come with very good mouse control software - but that was nullified on my system years ago when I went to Logitech and the LCC software that improved that. The old touchpad on my iBook is far superior in operation when compared the the multitouch garbage they use now on the MacBook, and the new touchpad is one of the main dealbreakers that has me shopping for a PC laptop these days.

I find Microsoft intellipont to solve some of the problem but it still can't compare to windows acceleration.

Font rendering is variable - there are a bunch of features that need to be toggled. Apple does a bad job at setting the defaults, but with the right tools, font rendering is superior to Windows. But it is not an easy road to get to, especially if one is saddled with a Mac that has one of the deficient screens that has to dither everything. Also, all Mac models have obsolete video cards, whereas many PC users have migrated to modern video cards -especially in the OCN universe.

Na I use my 5870 on my hackintosh. I use a modern video card. My macbook pro has a 9800m. The font rendering can't be fixed. Trust me. You can turn it off, light, medium but you can't do anything else with it. Trust me I've been there done that.

Apple does a terrible job at the Dock. the Dock is pretty useful, and entirely usable, and I prefer it to the space hog that Task Bar is. However, you can not make the Dock usable with the tools Apple gives you - you have to have aftermarket Haxies that do it right. Even then, there is the hurdle of the Genie or Scale effect, which is resource robbing bling that really should be shut off. The Dock has even more brain damage, now that they have stiffed wisers with Stacks - a utility which emits large volumes of barf all over the screen in one easy mouse click. I can certainly see why people would prefer the brain damage that s the Taskbar to that of the Dock - especially when Apple obscures or simply does not allow people to make the settings that make the Dock useful without barfing all over the screen.

Wait a minute. Your calling the taskbar a space hog? The taskbar can be shrunk anyway. Not to mention even if the Dock is on the lowest setting it's still the same size, if not bigger than the taskbar at the biggest setting. You don't make any sense.

As for the effects, I make sure I turn those off in MacOSX immediately. If find stacks to be somewhat useful personally.


That is simply a setting problem - but not a simple one to solve because Apple does not provide the appropriate tools to make it useful.

Umm no. This is not a setting issue. It can't be changed. Been there done that.

OSX has carried forward a substantial amount of brain damage when it comes to window management. What always bugged me was the inability to Maximize with one click, the hard to find target to dragging the window larger, and the fact that I can't drag the bottom left corner around. Arranging windows in OSX is a hassle.

The maximize can be fixed. It's called cinch, or hyper dock. It mimics aero snap and allows you to snap a window fully maximized very easily. It's the only saving grace to MacOSX. Other wise, yes, arranging windows is definitely a hassle.

I think Finder has the potential to be better than Explorer - but again, OSX has carried through a number of annoyances that make it brain damaged. I always though the inability to do batch renaming of files to be particularly brain damaged - and sure, one can get aftermerket software to do that - but file naming should be something easy-peasy for an OS.

One thing that pisses me off about finder is it lacks the ability to open a finder within any program with a 2 combination keyboard event. Like the way you can open explorer with windows key + e. So much better.

Spotlight is a deal killer - absolute rubbish when compared to even something simple as Find. Apple claims more "speed", but really, when I want to Find something, I want to find the actual file, not some entry in a metafile database that Big Brother keeps compiling on each and every thing I do.

Spotlight is terrible. Yes.

Apple, for a company that really built itself on GUIs - does not put forth a very good GUI.

Exactly. I mean that's what you pay for in MacOSX. The Aqua gui. The OS(darwin) is free. To think that it's where it's at right now is horrific to think about.

Windows is it's own attrocity, and differs only in the different kinds of brain damage it brings forth. But then, at least MS did not run with the BOB paradigm - because that was truly the worst GUI ever...

Yes Bob was bad. Everyone knew that wouldn't last though. I don't think Windows is that bad. Yes, the underlining OS is bad, but the interfaces is 100% legit. I think it works really well.

Edited by dham - 1/9/11 at 11:21am
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 750 4.01ghz at 1.27v MSI P55 GD-80 Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB + EVGA 9800GT Physx G.SKILL 4GB DDR3 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial 128gb Real SSD, WD Black 500gb, 750gb LG DVD combo Windows 7 Ultimate 64 / Arch Linux x64 22" Acer 
PowerCase
Corsair HX750 Corsair 600t 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 750 4.01ghz at 1.27v MSI P55 GD-80 Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB + EVGA 9800GT Physx G.SKILL 4GB DDR3 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial 128gb Real SSD, WD Black 500gb, 750gb LG DVD combo Windows 7 Ultimate 64 / Arch Linux x64 22" Acer 
PowerCase
Corsair HX750 Corsair 600t 
  hide details  
Reply
post #43 of 52
Not for me...
Too many rules - "don't touch with >1 finger."

I can see where this would be useful, just... NOT IN MY HOUSE!


As for EvanPitts tl;dr b0ll0cks post I had to stop reading after:
"It is great to use an apple to have a MORE stable and MORE reliable OS than windows" [Paraphrased].

Mate... you are full of sheeite.
my Win7 is as stable and reliable as ANY OS you HAVE EVER USED.

I think a bridge, somewhere, is missing a troll.
Edited by newphase - 1/9/11 at 11:41am
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 Asus Lappy GeForce GT520M 4096 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB LG W7=64 ult + Slackware13.1_64 + MineOS HP w2207h 
KeyboardCaseMouse
logitech G11 Fugly, lol logitech mx518 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 Asus Lappy GeForce GT520M 4096 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
500GB LG W7=64 ult + Slackware13.1_64 + MineOS HP w2207h 
KeyboardCaseMouse
logitech G11 Fugly, lol logitech mx518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #44 of 52
I just invented new word: FTL (For The Lose)
Really, i just cant see the point of this product.
L'ordinateur
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 950 ASUS P6X58D-E Sapphire 6870 G.Skill Ripjaw 3x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
WD Caviar Black 1TB Noctua D-14 Win7 x64 Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
HP OEM thingy Sapphire Pure 950w Antec DF-30 Logitech MX110 
Audio
Corsair Vengeance 1500 
  hide details  
Reply
L'ordinateur
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 950 ASUS P6X58D-E Sapphire 6870 G.Skill Ripjaw 3x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
WD Caviar Black 1TB Noctua D-14 Win7 x64 Samsung 731B 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
HP OEM thingy Sapphire Pure 950w Antec DF-30 Logitech MX110 
Audio
Corsair Vengeance 1500 
  hide details  
Reply
post #45 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by dham View Post
Umm no. I used MacOSX for around 7 months exclusively at work and home. I actually liked it a lot more when I just dabbled in it here and there at school and peoples computers. That's why I wanted a MacBook Pro when I got my new job. After actually using it to do productive things I couldn't stand it. When I finally switched back to Windows I felt like a weight had been lifted.
According to you, the design, music and movie industry must be full of unproductive people since the majority use OS X.

In the end, it's just you.
Shhhhh!
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 930 Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R XFX 5870 1GB 6GB G.SKILL PI 1600MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
120GB OCZ Vertex 2, 2x Hitachi 2TB (7K2000) Pioneer Blu-ray BDR-205BKS, Samsung SH-S243N Windows 7 Ultimate x64/WinXP Pro SP3 Samsung P2570 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech Elite Keyboard Corsair 850HX Lian-Li PC-B70 Logitech MX510 
Mouse Pad
Gel 
  hide details  
Reply
Shhhhh!
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 930 Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R XFX 5870 1GB 6GB G.SKILL PI 1600MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
120GB OCZ Vertex 2, 2x Hitachi 2TB (7K2000) Pioneer Blu-ray BDR-205BKS, Samsung SH-S243N Windows 7 Ultimate x64/WinXP Pro SP3 Samsung P2570 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech Elite Keyboard Corsair 850HX Lian-Li PC-B70 Logitech MX510 
Mouse Pad
Gel 
  hide details  
Reply
post #46 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by AzO View Post
According to you, the design, music and movie industry must be full of unproductive people since the majority use OS X.

In the end, it's just you.
Na. Because in music production your mainly using just one program. Especially the music engineers. Your not switching applications a lot. You mainly just have pro tools open. And then you have all your RTAS and VST plugins as windows within that program.

But no one uses pro tools to actually compose music. You would have to be an idiot. It's basically just a post production tool now a days. All music is composed in Cubase, Reason, Ableton Live, Sonar, and Digital Performer. Fl studio is still used a lot too, especially as a beat composing tool.

Frankly most all the multi platform music programs run better under Windows than MacOSX. Ableton Live, Cubase, and Pro Tools are some of those. Not to mention audio interface drivers work better under Windows because they are given more time. At least as a whole.

Make sure you know what your talking about before getting into a discussion you know nothing about. I've been doing computer music production for over 8 years. I've been on the forums, I've seen what is used, I know how it works, I know the problems.
Edited by dham - 1/9/11 at 7:19pm
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 750 4.01ghz at 1.27v MSI P55 GD-80 Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB + EVGA 9800GT Physx G.SKILL 4GB DDR3 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial 128gb Real SSD, WD Black 500gb, 750gb LG DVD combo Windows 7 Ultimate 64 / Arch Linux x64 22" Acer 
PowerCase
Corsair HX750 Corsair 600t 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 750 4.01ghz at 1.27v MSI P55 GD-80 Sapphire Radeon HD 5870 1GB + EVGA 9800GT Physx G.SKILL 4GB DDR3 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Crucial 128gb Real SSD, WD Black 500gb, 750gb LG DVD combo Windows 7 Ultimate 64 / Arch Linux x64 22" Acer 
PowerCase
Corsair HX750 Corsair 600t 
  hide details  
Reply
post #47 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by dham View Post


One of my favorite things to do at work is watch how long it takes mac people to find certain windows or which program has come into focus.

I've never seen a windows user have a program open and literally hunt for a certain window within a program for more than 10 seconds. Since the entire UI has that grey look to it, it's impossible to figure out which program your in. The menubar is always in the same place and all the windows look exactly the same. There's also no indication in the dock to which program is in focus. Most people have the dock always hidden anyway because if you don't it takes up so much screen space.

Unless they fix the horrible window management(non existent), and window paradigm. Although I doubt that will ever happen.
I do not want to spark a battle but you repeat this so many times I can't tell if you are serious or sarcastic. About all the programs looking the same they look the same as on windows. I have never had a friend with a mac that did not have the squeeze buttons on their apple mouse as expose (i think it is the default so not to surprising) which reveals all open windows instantly. To the power user many times faster then finding a window on windows. This is just my opinion though.

On topic though this is just an alternative to the magic mouse. If you do not want a touch mouse then who cares. If you do try this mouse and the magic mouse one and the one you enjoy more you should buy.
Night Stalker
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. P67A-UD3-B3 GeForce GTX 660 Corsair xms3 4gb (2x2gb) 1600 1.6v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 pro OCZ Agility 3 Wd Black  1tb Hitachi Deskstar 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi sata hd Optiarc DVD RW Scythe Mugen 2 windows 7 64 bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
22 inch hannspree monitor, 17 inch x2gen monitor CM Storm Quick Fire 600 watt ocz nzxt Phantom (Black) 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Roccat Kone XTD Steel series UE 6000 
  hide details  
Reply
Night Stalker
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. P67A-UD3-B3 GeForce GTX 660 Corsair xms3 4gb (2x2gb) 1600 1.6v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 pro OCZ Agility 3 Wd Black  1tb Hitachi Deskstar 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi sata hd Optiarc DVD RW Scythe Mugen 2 windows 7 64 bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
22 inch hannspree monitor, 17 inch x2gen monitor CM Storm Quick Fire 600 watt ocz nzxt Phantom (Black) 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Roccat Kone XTD Steel series UE 6000 
  hide details  
Reply
post #48 of 52
if its anything like magic mouse (or any apple mouse) do not want.
My first rig
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 750 @3.7ghz Asus P7P55D-e Pro 2 x MSI Cyclone GTX 460 4gb G.Skill DDR3 @1600 7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1tb Hitachi Deskstar LG generic drive Corsair H50 Win7 64 Bit Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VW246H 24" LCD 2ms Microsoft Sidewinder x4 Corsair HX 750w Modular PSU CM 690 II Advanced 
Mouse
Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
My first rig
(14 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 750 @3.7ghz Asus P7P55D-e Pro 2 x MSI Cyclone GTX 460 4gb G.Skill DDR3 @1600 7-8-7-24 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1tb Hitachi Deskstar LG generic drive Corsair H50 Win7 64 Bit Ultimate 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS VW246H 24" LCD 2ms Microsoft Sidewinder x4 Corsair HX 750w Modular PSU CM 690 II Advanced 
Mouse
Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #49 of 52
In other news, mice with more features and more consistent performance still only $40.

Also to the guy who says Mac OS is hard, I say LOL
Mira
(17 items)
 
R a z a N e u n
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2400S ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 AMD Radeon R9 390 Crucial Ballistix Tracer 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung SSD 850 Pro 256GB Western Digital WD50000LPLX LG BR/DVD/CD Burner Air Nation 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Windows 10 Home RCA 32" 1080p RCA 32" 1080p LG 32" 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Cooler Master Devastator II Ultra 1000w PC Voodoo Rage Cooler Master Devastator II 
Mouse Pad
Custom 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 EP45-UD3L ATI Radeon HD 6950 Crucial Ballistix Tracer 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1TB Western Digital LiteON DVD+-RW ArcticCooling CPU | 4x 80mm Case Fans Windows 7 Ultimate (64bit) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Sony 46" + LG 32" Logitech G15 Silverstone ST60F 600W VoodooPC Rage D:100 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech VX Revolution Vera Wang AltecLansing 5.1 300W Surround 
  hide details  
Reply
Mira
(17 items)
 
R a z a N e u n
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2400S ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 AMD Radeon R9 390 Crucial Ballistix Tracer 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung SSD 850 Pro 256GB Western Digital WD50000LPLX LG BR/DVD/CD Burner Air Nation 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Windows 10 Home RCA 32" 1080p RCA 32" 1080p LG 32" 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Cooler Master Devastator II Ultra 1000w PC Voodoo Rage Cooler Master Devastator II 
Mouse Pad
Custom 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 EP45-UD3L ATI Radeon HD 6950 Crucial Ballistix Tracer 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1TB Western Digital LiteON DVD+-RW ArcticCooling CPU | 4x 80mm Case Fans Windows 7 Ultimate (64bit) 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Sony 46" + LG 32" Logitech G15 Silverstone ST60F 600W VoodooPC Rage D:100 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech VX Revolution Vera Wang AltecLansing 5.1 300W Surround 
  hide details  
Reply
post #50 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by dham View Post
Na. Because in music production your mainly using just one program. Especially the music engineers. Your not switching applications a lot. You mainly just have pro tools open. And then you have all your RTAS and VST plugins as windows within that program.

But no one uses pro tools to actually compose music. You would have to be an idiot. It's basically just a post production tool now a days. All music is composed in Cubase, Reason, Ableton Live, Sonar, and Digital Performer. Fl studio is still used a lot too, especially as a beat composing tool.

Frankly most all the multi platform music programs run better under Windows than MacOSX. Ableton Live, Cubase, and Pro Tools are some of those. Not to mention audio interface drivers work better under Windows because they are given more time. At least as a whole.

Make sure you know what your talking about before getting into a discussion you know nothing about. I've been doing computer music production for over 8 years. I've been on the forums, I've seen what is used, I know how it works, I know the problems.
Lol. Owned.

Touch mouse? Guess it would take some getting used too.
Gaming 06/2008
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k Asrock z68 extreme3 gen3 HD5870 Sapphire G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
SAMSUNG F3 1TB Disk Spinner Win 7 x64 24" Samsung 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
10 Key-less Cherry Blues 700w OCZ Centurion 590 Razer Death Adder 
Mouse Pad
Black 
  hide details  
Reply
Gaming 06/2008
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k Asrock z68 extreme3 gen3 HD5870 Sapphire G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
SAMSUNG F3 1TB Disk Spinner Win 7 x64 24" Samsung 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
10 Key-less Cherry Blues 700w OCZ Centurion 590 Razer Death Adder 
Mouse Pad
Black 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Hardware News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Engadget] Microsoft Touch Mouse unveiled, available for $80 in June