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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
Hi,

After much research and advice from the forum, I've put together two builds for a gaming system that I'm building w/ a friend. My friend isn't sure that he wants to overclock his system, but it seems as if it's almost expected these days by the component manufacturers. So, of the two builds, one is designed for overclocking, and the other isn't.

I'm looking for any and all opinions, particularly on the heatsinks and PSUs. I'd started another thread relating to the mobo's and memory, so I'm fairly happy w/ those choices, but any comments are welcome. Also, we tried to keep the pricing as close to $1000 as we could. Thank you.


Non-Overclocking System
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz 4x512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EALX 1TB 7200RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 Heatpipe Direct Contact Long-Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2x2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH
Mobo: Biostar TA890FXE AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s
Optical Drive: LG Black 24x DVD+R 8x DVD+RW 16x DVD+R DL 24x DVD-R 6x DVD-RW 12x DVD-RAM 16x DVD-ROM 48x CD-R 32x CD-RW
PSU: Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Ready 80 Plus Bronze Certified
Video Card: Sapphire Vapor-X 100281VX-2SR Radeon HD 5870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support
Total Price: $1017.90


Overclocking System
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4x512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache 6.0Gb/s
Heatsink: Xigmatek Aegir SD 128264 Mega Killer Double HDT 120mm Long-Life Bearing CPU Cooler Dual Fan
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2x2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
Mobo: Asus Crosshair IV Formula AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
Optical Drive: LG Black 24x DVD+R 8x DVD+RW 16x DVD+R DL 24x DVD-R 6x DVD-RW 12x DVD-RAM 16x DVD-ROM 48x CD-R 32x CD-RW
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold Series RS800-80GAD3-US 800W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.92 CrossFire Ready 80 Plus Gold Certified
Video Card: Sapphire Vapor-X 100281VX-2SR Radeon HD 5870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support
Total Price: $1198.90
post #2 of 18
similar psu for the first one, almost half the price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16817371026R

i dont like liteon or lg optical drives, they tend to be noisy or vibrate
try to get samsung, sony or hp
post #3 of 18
1. Just get this RAM on the non-overclocking build, 1600 9-9-9 performs slightly better/equals 1333 7-7-7, much cheaper. Or better yet if you don't mind OCZ quality, this RAM rated 1600 8-8-8 is at $45 with no rebates!
2. Better to get the 955 for both, it only costs $6 more than 945 and only a few $ less than 965 while having similar OC capability, and being C3 revision
3. XFX HD 5870 is a better deal, comes with double lifetime warranty, $10 cheaper before rebate and $20 cheaper after.
post #4 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thank you for the quick replies. I'll definitely look into the alternative optical drives.

As for the CPUs, what does the c3 revision get me? The reason we'd gone w/ the 965 is b/c, it's a 3.4GHz chip, compared to 3.2GHz for the 955, and it was only $15 more.
post #5 of 18
C3 revision is much better; C3 has better memory support and better overclockability among other things.
post #6 of 18
Actually you have it backwards on the CPU's.With no overclocking you want the highest speed you can get.Overclocking any C3 Phenom will get you similar results.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1100t MSI 890FX GD65 MSI Radeon HD5670 GSkill RipjawsX DDR3 PC3 12800 2x4GB CL8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD Black 1TB SATA III Samsung BD Zalman 9900MAX Windows 7 64 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
AOC 22" LED Logitech Kingwin Lazer Platinum 500w Fractal Design R3 
Other
Samsung 470 SSD 128GB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 960T Asus M4A88T-VEVO Asus Strix R7 370 SuperTalent Perfomance 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
GSkill Snipers Monster Daytona Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7,200 RPM 16Mb cache Memorex DVD/RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
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Amelia
(13 items)
 
Professional
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RCPC#1
(17 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X6 1100t MSI 890FX GD65 MSI Radeon HD5670 GSkill RipjawsX DDR3 PC3 12800 2x4GB CL8 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD Black 1TB SATA III Samsung BD Zalman 9900MAX Windows 7 64 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
AOC 22" LED Logitech Kingwin Lazer Platinum 500w Fractal Design R3 
Other
Samsung 470 SSD 128GB 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X6 960T Asus M4A88T-VEVO Asus Strix R7 370 SuperTalent Perfomance 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
GSkill Snipers Monster Daytona Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7,200 RPM 16Mb cache Memorex DVD/RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair H60 Windows 8N IBM 9494 19" LCD IBM 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair GS500 In Win H-Frame Wolfking OCZ Behemoth 
Audio
JBL Creature 
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post #7 of 18
Thread Starter 
That's a good point about having it backwards. I'll switch the two around in the config.
post #8 of 18
The 945 is multiplier locked, it may not be the best for overclocking. In addition, it is a C2 revision which doesn't normally overclock as well.
post #9 of 18
Thread Starter 
In that case, I can use the 945 for the non-overclocking build and the 955 or 965 for the overclocking one.
post #10 of 18
Actually I recommend you at least go with the 955 on either build, but you can choose to go with the 965 or 970 for the non-ovreclocking build (highest clock speed) or also for the overclocking build (the 970 is newer stepping, so may overclock further).
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