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I just got a 40GB Mushkin SSD, and am in the process of optimizing it for use with Windows 7.
At this point, here is what I have heard (I have included some of my personal questions to go along with the points):
1. Windows Disk Defragmenter, SuperFetch, and PreFetch are all automatically disabled when Windows runs WEI and recognizes you have an SSD.
2. To get the best performance with an SSD, Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver must be installed (what exactly does this do, I thought TRIM was native to W7?)
3. The SSD should be set up to boot in AHCI mode, via the BIOS (how does AHCI mode affect performance?)
4. Drive Indexing for the SSD must be disabled manually
5. The Page File should be reduced to 1-2GB (Which is better, and how do I do this?)
Is there anything else I should know about SSD installation/optimization? Most importantly, are all these points correct? And are there any other W7 features I should know about that are disabled automatically, or need to be disabled automatically?

I have read through quite a few threads, and have gotten different information from each. I posted the points that seem to have come from the most recent threads.
I use Windows 7 Ultimate x64, if that affects anything.
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I just got a 40GB Mushkin SSD, and am in the process of optimizing it for use with Windows 7.
At this point, here is what I have heard (I have included some of my personal questions to go along with the points):
1. Windows Disk Defragmenter, SuperFetch, and PreFetch are all automatically disabled when Windows runs WEI and recognizes you have an SSD.
2. To get the best performance with an SSD, Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver must be installed (what exactly does this do, I thought TRIM was native to W7?)
3. The SSD should be set up to boot in AHCI mode, via the BIOS (how does AHCI mode affect performance?)
4. Drive Indexing for the SSD must be disabled manually
5. The Page File should be reduced to 1-2GB (Which is better, and how do I do this?)
Is there anything else I should know about SSD installation/optimization? Most importantly, are all these points correct? And are there any other W7 features I should know about that are disabled automatically, or need to be disabled automatically?

I have read through quite a few threads, and have gotten different information from each. I posted the points that seem to have come from the most recent threads.
I use Windows 7 Ultimate x64, if that affects anything.
1. Yes
2. If you have an Intel chipset then yes. If you have an AMD or nVidia chipset then it's recommended to use Microsoft's own driver. W7 supports TRIM natively and it's turned on by default however a TRIM supported driver must be running for it function and currently only Intel and Microsoft have one.
3. Yes. AHCI is necessary for TRIM as well. AHCI is not only faster than IDE but adds extra functionality such as NCQ:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Command_Queuing
4. Yes. For instructions go here:
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...l=1#post567582
5. I think 1 gig page file for you should suffice. I have 4 gigs of ram and have a page file of 2 gigs. It doesn't matter really. To set it manually:
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...l=1#post567577

I personally feel that the guide stickied here contains a lot of useless misinformation. Much of that stuff is either unnecessary or done automatically. Some of the so called tweaks disable some of Windows' internal troubleshooters (the one which disables some of the logging) along with some other stuff all for the sake of a tiny amount of reduced write data which is insignificant to begin with.

The only "tweak" I would recommend for SSDs is to move your libraries if you have an additional hard drive.

Go to C:\\Users\\YourName\\

Right click on one of the folders, go to properties, and go to the locations tab.

Move stuff like pictures, videos, downloads, etc just to save some space on the SSD. Whatever you do, do not move My Documents or AppData. The rest are fine.

Also, don't bench them too often but if you must then use ATTO as the other benchmarks flood your drive with non compressible data.

Relax and enjoy your SSD. They're extremely simple to use.
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I'll suggest a guide I always use.
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Wow
+rep for you!

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The only "tweak" I would recommend for SSDs is to move your libraries if you have an additional hard drive.

Go to C:\\Users\\YourName\\

Right click on one of the folders, go to properties, and go to the locations tab.

Move stuff like pictures, videos, downloads, etc just to save some space on the SSD. Whatever you do, do not move My Documents or AppData. The rest are fine.
I was actually planning on putting my Steam library on my 500GB WD, and my other data (Downloads, Videos, Pictures, Documents, etc) on my F3 RAID0. I found several guides on how to do similar things (the guides are pretty much identical, btw):
1. Maximum PC Guide
2. OCN Guide

Do you think this will work out?
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I was actually planning on putting my Steam library on my 500GB WD, and my other data (Downloads, Videos, Pictures, Documents, etc) on my F3 RAID0. I found several guides on how to do similar things (the guides are pretty much identical, btw):
1. Maximum PC Guide
2. OCN Guide

Do you think this will work out?
I personally wouldn't do it unless you really, really, really need the space.

Just about all your application preferences, application profiles, application data, save games, etc are stored in My Documents and AppData. In my opinion, it kind of defeats the purpose of, for example, installing Photoshop on the SSD only to load the project of a slower HDD. SSDs are all about the near-instant access times.

I personally have Steam installed on my VelociRaptor. All I did was just change the installation path when installing from C:\\Program Files (x86\\ to F:\\Program Files (x86)\\

I do this for all the games I install. No need to make/mount extra partitions like Maximum PC says. Changing the drive letter in a custom install is easy enough.

You could also check out a program called Steam mover:
http://www.traynier.com/software/steammover

Which basically moves folders for you to other drives while setting up junction paths.

It's pretty handy for something like Steam because all the games need to be installed in the Steam directory. If you wind up with some extra space on an SSD, you can easily move one game on to it (while having Steam installed on another drive) to check out the performance and move it back without having to uninstall/reinstall.

Oh yea, and if you like you can disable System Restore and Hibernation which is listed in the guide LilChris posted if you don't use either of them. Disabling hibernation frees up 2 gigs easily.
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Awesome. Thanks for the information, you guys! Rep to both of ya!
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