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Lol stop fooling yourself. I had the Z5500 and they sounded like trash compared to what I have now and I wouldn't call my stuff high end by any means.
You assume both are made with the same components. That is an unsubstantiated assumption.

CNET has for a long time maintained that the Logitech Z-2300s are of excellent quality, and handily beat the Klipsch Promedia 2.1s at that. My only qualm with the Z-2300s is the sibilance, but with their size and price it's hard to find issue with it. If I really want to listen to music I'll use my earbuds or 5.1 setup in the living room.
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I've used a pair of Z2300 before. They're crappy quality. Just like the Z5500. Its bad when the speakers move around the desk when they're up at a high volume and sound better when you squeeze the plastic together in your hands.

I wouldn't trust CNET with speaker reviews anyway. The Z2300 beat the Klipsch in one aspect and that's reliability. The Klipsch sounds better hands down.
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I really don't understand why any one would take Tom's review on audio seriously.

Tom's is not a reliable source for anything audio related, heck some of their computer related articles are nothing less of bogus.

If I wanted a solid review regarding audio fidelity I would consult a audiophile forum, definitely not Tom's.
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post #64 of 76
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There's valid reasons why we bash though. They've been brought up many times.

Plus, think about it. How many people have gone from Logitech speakers, for example, to bookshelf speakers and love the change? Lots and lots of people. Now how many people would go from bookshelf speakers to Logitechs? None.

That says a lot...
well to be fair most bookshelf speakers cost more than the logitechs, even my cheap Polk Monitor 40's that i use for my rears cost far more than the Z-2300's and thats without a power source
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I really don't understand why any one would take Tom's review on audio seriously.
Haha, so true... I would love to see a true audiophile site/magazine review these computer speakers. While writing the article they would require a thesaurus open to the word "terrible" the entire time.
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post #66 of 76
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I've used a pair of Z2300 before. They're crappy quality. Just like the Z5500. Its bad when the speakers move around the desk when they're up at a high volume and sound better when you squeeze the plastic together in your hands.

I wouldn't trust CNET with speaker reviews anyway. The Z2300 beat the Klipsch in one aspect and that's reliability. The Klipsch sounds better hands down.
You are the only person I've read that suggests that. Your opinion is no more (or less) valid than CNET except for the fact that CNET has a history of reliability.
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I don't mind CNET too but have no idea about that which one is better.
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You are the only person I've read that suggests that. Your opinion is no more (or less) valid than CNET except for the fact that CNET has a history of reliability.
Oh please, ask anyone who knows a little something about audio and has actually heard some decent equipment and they'll all tell you what I just said. They're a piece of junk. Logitech makes some good input devices, not speakers.
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Oh please, ask anyone who knows a little something about audio and has actually heard some decent equipment and they'll all tell you what I just said. They're a piece of junk. Logitech makes some good input devices, not speakers.
OK, I'm done being nice. You seriously need to take a look at your own logic, or the lack thereof. You seem to think that comparing a $150 2.1 setup that is meant to be small and fit on a desktop to decent bookshelf speakers, only one of which would cost that much, is fair. No one in their right mind would argue that (though apparently you would pretend that others are arguing that for whatever reason). If you buy Logitech Z-2300s for listening to music, you are not the brightest bulb in the drawer. If you are using music to base your choice of desktop speakers, then you are in that same drawer. It's just ludicrous as the comparisons you seem to want to make. So yes, the Z-2300s sound like crap when you compare them to bookshelf speakers. You have anything else obvious that you want to state?
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OK, I'm done being nice. You seriously need to take a look at your own logic, or the lack thereof. You seem to think that comparing a $150 2.1 setup that is meant to be small and fit on a desktop to decent bookshelf speakers, only one of which would cost that much, is fair. No one in their right mind would argue that (though apparently you would pretend that others are arguing that for whatever reason). If you buy Logitech Z-2300s for listening to music, you are not the brightest bulb in the drawer. If you are using music to base your choice of desktop speakers, then you are in that same drawer. It's just ludicrous as the comparisons you seem to want to make. So yes, the Z-2300s sound like crap when you compare them to bookshelf speakers. You have anything else obvious that you want to state?
AV40's are right around the same price as the Z2300. They destroy the Logitechs in audio quality in every application unless you want boomy, inaccurate fart bass coming from your sound system. The AV40's won't do that.

If you can't fit even a small set of bookshelf speakers on your desk and don't want to put them on stands then there's always other brands of computer speakers that are better than Logitech. Klipsch and Altec Lansing and Edifier (across the pond) make sets that sound better than Z2300, that happen to cost the same or less.

So what about gaming you say? The must be good at that, no? They're not. Kind of ruins the experience when male voices boom out of the sub and turning the sub down just creates a nasty frequency gap.

Keep drinking the Kool Aid though. I did for awhile until I was exposed to what speakers are supposed to sound like.
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