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Lol if they did even I would build a new rig right now
    
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I think everyone here knows I dislike the 9xx series from Intel because it never provided a very good price > performance ratio. I did like the first gen i5's, but again the performance just wasn't enough to move me out of the AMD line-up.

However the new chips are about 13% faster clock for clock than the old 9xx chips, and they exceed their high end clocking by a fair amount. We've also seen the pci-x while limited, still performs better than the x58 chipset in SLI.

I just don't see why AMD is releasing higher clocked chips - outside of trying to snag some people who don't overclock... But if you got a 975 you're only looking at a 500-600MHz overclock on air at best.
    
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2500K is a real killer to most AMD chips at this point especially if it can be easy to OC on air. Have to wait for bulldozer if it is good.
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The i5-2500k is slated for $216 retail, fry's is selling it for $180 + tax.




how do you know? so they are not making any profit?
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how do you know? so they are not making any profit?
Sorry, when I went to dig it up it turned out to be Micro Center.

http://www.microcenter.com/storefron...ource=ACT_BYO&


$250 - $70 instant = $180

Clearly a huge mark-up with massive discount to get people into the store so they can sell boards and ram and other stuff.
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Sorry, when I went to dig it up it turned out to be Micro Center.

http://www.microcenter.com/storefron...ource=ACT_BYO&


$250 - $70 instant = $180

Clearly a huge mark-up with massive discount to get people into the store so they can sell boards and ram and other stuff.
Actually with the i7 920, if I recall correctly microcenter lost money each 920 they sold (when they were $200) and they made the money by encouraging people to buy mobos, ram, etc with their CPU.
    
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Imho starting from 200$ /CPU AMD doesn't have a chance.

Under 200$ though, SB and AMD CPUs are pretty closely matched, and as a plus AMD processors can be OCed, while SB i3s can't move a MHz. Under 100$ one must be crazy not to buy AMD considering they have the best platform (SATA3 and USB3 under 100$/mobo) and the CPUs are at least on par with Intel, if not better.

So from my point of view, it is clearer than ever: sub 100$ AMD; 100-200 gray area, depends on the apps used and interest in OCing; over 200$ Intel.
Actually, it's more like starting at $170, they couldn't compete. It seems SB processors were purposely priced to compete with X6. i5-2300 -> 1055T; i5-2400 -> 1075T; i5-2500(K) -> 1090T.

Also, locked chips can overclock by around 400 MHz. By my estimate, taking Turbo into account, that's just enough headroom for even the junior i5-2300 model with all 4 cores stressed to match the performance of a Phenom II oc'ed to ~4GHz.

Below $170, it'll be AMD's domain. Clarkdales will be preferred by some but once it gets phased out, locked Core i3's won't be able to compete.
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