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But I tried the same RAM with the perfectly functioning PSU on this computer as well as the one on there currently.

Thing is the RAM isn't under load when I'm running Prime, the CPU is. Is there a chance the PSU hurt everything? Should I do a full on swap of my parts except the CPU?
Prime is very ram intensive

What speed and timings is your ram at? Auto can be a bit funny but set it to 1600 8-9-8-24-33-1t manually and see if it persists. Also auto ram volts is 1.54 so go to the overvolt menu and set memory to +110mv.

I would also get out the multimeter and see how much your rails are dipping under load..
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Try going for a bare bones test to see if that can help out, basically just run the system with the absolute minimum to boot up, also clear the CMOS before proceeding.

For bare bones testing I usually do the following

1 ram stick the cpu and then use the onboard video card with the known good psu if the system doesn't shutdown in memtest86+ or while using prime95, shut down and add another component or switch out the ram with the other stick or try a different slot for the ram and see if it happens again continue until it stops happening or you run out of things to test or the problem comes back right after adding a component whatever component it was is probably the problem component.

If after doing this the problem still occurs you are probably looking at a motherboard problem.
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But I tried the same RAM with the perfectly functioning PSU on this computer as well as the one on there currently.

Thing is the RAM isn't under load when I'm running Prime, the CPU is. Is there a chance the PSU hurt everything? Should I do a full on swap of my parts except the CPU?
did you pass memtest when you used your good psu? replacing the psu will keep the issue from happening again but the new sticks might already be baked and need to be replaced. if you have some sticks lying around. test the build w/ a stable psu and ram and see if you can pass memtest and prime
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Well, put one stick in, tried to run memtest and the computer rebooted itself again. I suppose that pretty much means it's the RAM then.
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did you pass memtest when you used your good psu? replacing the psu will keep the issue from happening again but the new sticks might already be baked and need to be replaced. if you have some sticks lying around. test the build w/ a stable psu and ram and see if you can pass memtest and prime
Unfortunately for me, I don't have any other DDR3 Ram around, as this is my first build that supports it. That really would make this a helluva lot easier to diagnose though.
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Did you try the changes suggested on your memory? It can be quite touchy when it comes to settings, also try the other stick you may not be at a total loss as of yet with it
    
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Well, put one stick in, tried to run memtest and the computer rebooted itself again. I suppose that pretty much means it's the RAM then.
i'd try the other stick as well, and loosen the timings and drop the clock to see if that helps.

not having any good ram on hand does make it a PITA to try to troubleshoot.

i really hope you just baked your ram and not your mobo. i had a work computer psu go bad and i was getting similar issues and it turned out i killed the mobo.
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Well right now I can't get it to even boot past the first screen. I ran memtest, it rebooted, then froze there with some red dotted type lines going down the screen.

If the mobo is shot it's shot, I'mm RMA the whole thing if need be.

Just to add to this, I did have the PC running before with different RAM for a few days, and then it started giving me issues (not the exact same, but similar enough in retrospect). Is this damage the type of thing that would happen only when the RAM is taxed? (The last RAM ended up starting to go after installing DirectX and trying to run EVE.
Edited by petrieslastword - 1/6/11 at 3:11am
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i don't think stressing your ram is what caused your issues. it sounds like your psu was faulty, and wasn't giving your hardware the correct power, and destabilized your system. if this is the second set of ram that's bricked then it's probable the mobo is dead as well. the only way to know for sure is to test w/ known good components. quickest cheapest and easiest way (unless you don't mind having spare ram sticks around, which is never a bad thing) is to rma the ram and mobo along w/ the faulty psu and start from scratch.

also, if you're planning on building more computers in the future, i'd suggest investing in

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i don't think stressing your ram is what caused your issues. it sounds like your psu was faulty, and wasn't giving your hardware the correct power, and destabilized your system. if this is the second set of ram that's bricked then it's probable the mobo is dead as well. the only way to know for sure is to test w/ known good components. quickest cheapest and easiest way (unless you don't mind having spare ram sticks around, which is never a bad thing) is to rma the ram and mobo along w/ the faulty psu and start from scratch.

also, if you're planning on building more computers in the future, i'd suggest investing in one of these
It's likely the CPU is alright then? That's the only part I'm currently stuck with unless I really push the issue.

Lesson learned though. Do not cheap out on the Power supply no matter how budget the build.

Just ordered .
Edited by petrieslastword - 1/6/11 at 3:36am
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