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....

Have you ever tried to play GT5 without it installed on the HDD?


It would be a terrible experience.
no i mean surely they could find a way of making the PS3 know if the WHOLE game + no disc is being used versus part of the game installed ont he hard drive and using the official disc?
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no i mean surely they could find a way of making the PS3 know if the WHOLE game + no disc is being used versus part of the game installed ont he hard drive and using the official disc?
Well, the way the previous backup managers worked was they mounted the disk, So I think that's already been overcome.
   
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I'm sure it'll end up being like the PSP, new OFW comes out, And days later that same CFW is released. It just becomes a firmware fight. This is where is gets dirty.
This! With the key found they can work out the current firmware, eventually creating their own to run games. =O

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no i mean surely they could find a way of making the PS3 know if the WHOLE game + no disc is being used versus part of the game installed ont he hard drive and using the official disc?
They lose. With the ability to create software/firmware now that has complete control they can just mask it. It won't take them long to emulate the security checks.... Oh wait, they have the master key.

I don't think you people understand what Holy Grail = Master Key means. This is THE END of PS3 security. I don't mean a small hiccup, I don't mean "Oh lets make a new security", I mean THE END. All those games signed for the current security can't be re-fabricated and sent to you, that would cost millions of dollars sony can't spend. They can't just release a new version with updated security and split the game archive, that would be irresponsible. This isn't just a problem, this is THE problem. This was probably one of the biggest software mistakes in the last decade, you just can't afford to make this type of mistake.
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Sony has been owned 9 ways to Sunday by pirates & hackers, but not just sony, many companies have been facing this problem, so to twart the BS and to put and end to business hassles, companies are going to the cloud for the solution....

The cloud will find an answer for these companies, I'm certain...

It may be the hackers who will be the ones getting hacked in the future...

The war is about to begin, I'm placing my bet on the cloud, we will see..

The only real solution I can think of for sony is to make a PS4 which has a built in 3G wireless internet connection to their server, which the user MUST login to in order to activate their game EVERY TIME... Unfortunately, if that 3G Wireless Ineternet Connection got broke it would mean Sony would have to fix it... :/
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This! With the key found they can work out the current firmware, eventually creating their own to run games. =O



They lose. With the ability to create software/firmware now that has complete control they can just mask it. It won't take them long to emulate the security checks.... Oh wait, they have the master key.

I don't think you people understand what Holy Grail = Master Key means. This is THE END of PS3 security. I don't mean a small hiccup, I don't mean "Oh lets make a new security", I mean THE END. All those games signed for the current security can't be re-fabricated and sent to you, that would cost millions of dollars sony can't spend. They can't just release a new version with updated security and split the game archive, that would be irresponsible. This isn't just a problem, this is THE problem. This was probably one of the biggest software mistakes in the last decade, you just can't afford to make this type of mistake.
This. Now its just a matter of threatening people who use CFW with a console ban. Using tactics from Microsoft? Well I never
   
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This. Now its just a matter of threatening people who use CFW with a console ban. Using tactics from Microsoft? Well I never
But how could they possibly tell?
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But how could they possibly tell?
Like I mentioned in the other thread - it's like modifying Gamerscore on the Xbox 360.

Anyone can do it. Very easily. And the 360 cannot possibly put up any red flags for MS to find it because it might as well have been legit. So, in comparison, it's very similar. Running homebrew that is signed by Sony and modifying the gamerscore as if it was done by the game (not sure if I explained that right, it's there but I can't put it into words lol)

But if MS looks in your direction - they can tell if you have modified the gamerscore and will snag you for it. And I don't just mean making it 999999999.
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Like I mentioned in the other thread - it's like modifying Gamerscore on the Xbox 360.

Anyone can do it. Very easily. And the 360 cannot possibly put up any red flags for MS to find it because it might as well have been legit.
But if MS looks in your direction - they can tell and will snag you for it.
I don't think this works exactly the same way. If you hack your PS3 the new way and then go online, how could they possibly tell? When you modify your gamer score though your changing values that they can directly compare.
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I don't think this works exactly the same way. If you hack your PS3 the new way and then go online, how could they possibly tell? When you modify your gamer score though your changing values that they can directly compare.
I don't see why Sony couldn't be able to look at you and see information regarding what's on your PS3 that's installed. They already do that as it is, and if they were to see custom software - it'd be as simple as pulling the trigger on you. Of course, by this method they would have to look specifically at you. The console can't throw up red flags and draw attention because it's all signed by Sony but the possibility still exists I would think. Unless Sony is even dumber than then the whole exploit LOL wouldn't shock me...

By changing values that you directly compare - I assuming you mean comparing with past values that they have on record? Well, I modified over a long period of time (not like making gamerscore jump 20,000 in one day). It would be pretty impossible to do that because it would all look legit. I got away with it for a good year but once M$ looked my way because I used a JTAG with my account logged in by accident: they nabbed my account not for the JTAG (the JTAG bans the console not the account) but the gamerscore they told me. I was furious and when I played stupid, they simply said they could tell and listed out all the games that I had modified. I was pretty full proof with it
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wait? Someone Hacked the PS3 Servers AGAIN? and uploaded Custom firmware?

O well... At least they didn't upload any Virus' this time
    
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