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You and every other intel fan hopes for this, so your chips will not feel like a waste of money.

I honestly don't know what the performance will be, all I know is that if it is going to be an 8 core, i'll be getting one. Bigadv folding ftw??
I like how you removed the end of that sentence you quoted from the front end which gave context.

To be fair I'm only a recent convert to 1366, and no fanboy I use what is proven and best....and what I can get my hands on on sale.
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To be fair I'm only a recent convert to 1366, and no fanboy I use what is proven and best....and what I can get my hands on on sale.
Same here. I like amd better as a company, but I was very tempted to build a sandy bridge system. I think i'll wait for bulldozer though and see what it offers.

Like I said though, you said you recently bought your intel system, so why is it unfair to say that your hoping it doesn't outperform the platform you just spent money on?
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Like I said though, you said you recently bought your intel system, so why is it unfair to say that your hoping it doesn't outperform the platform you just spent money on?
My reasons are that no company should have a monopoly on good performing components. It allows Intel to drive prices up, and I/we as the consumer lose.

If BD outperforms Nehalem and can trade punches with SB-GREAT! But BD has been vaporware and been "around the corner", with everyone on OCN advising AMD upgraders to "wait for BD" since before I was a member. For BD to best/compete with SB, they'd need to generation leap in performance/power consumption past Nehalem...as in most every benchmark I've seen PhenomII can only trade blows with Core2Quad and not Nehalem.uled as of now.

Hopefully AMD pulls it off and makes a good job of it...unlike Phenom I. Then there's the problem of SB thus far only being mid-range, with high-end not being unveiled until after high-end BD is officially sched
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My reasons are that no company should have a monopoly on good performing components. It allows Intel to drive prices up, and I/we as the consumer lose.

If BD outperforms Nehalem and can trade punches with SB-GREAT! But BD has been vaporware and been "around the corner", with everyone on OCN advising AMD upgraders to "wait for BD" since before I was a member. For BD to best/compete with SB, they'd need to generation leap in performance/power consumption past Nehalem...as in most every benchmark I've seen PhenomII can only trade blows with Core2Quad and not Nehalem.uled as of now.

Hopefully AMD pulls it off and makes a good job of it...unlike Phenom I. Then there's the problem of SB thus far only being mid-range, with high-end not being unveiled until after high-end BD is officially sched
I heard that they have been generation skipping in performance compared to intel. I can't remember what phenom I's were in comparible performance, but phenom II's took a giant leap above the phenom I's enough to compete with intel's previous gen, and now x6's are comparable to intel's quads. I'd say there is a decent chance that bulldozer could be better than sandy bridge, I mean sandy bridge, aside from power consumption and heat, is not that impressive. Which gives bulldozer an opportunity to step in and make something great.

Still, if the rumors are true, and december was the date for engineering samples, I want to start seeing something, anything about performance. All I can say is that if Bulldozer cpu's are not as good or better than intel's, there will be a riot.
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I heard that they have been generation skipping in performance compared to intel. I can't remember what phenom I's were in comparible performance, but phenom II's took a giant leap above the phenom I's enough to compete with intel's previous gen, and now x6's are comparable to intel's quads. I'd say there is a decent chance that bulldozer could be better than sandy bridge, I mean sandy bridge, aside from power consumption and heat, is not that impressive.
PhenomII is what PhenomI should have been. Released to compete with the then new Core2Quad...The original Phenoms ran very hot @ up to 140W at *stock speeds*, and performance was unremarkable with only 2MB of L3. Some of the very high-end Yorkfield C2Qs shipped with 12MB of L2 for perspective and only 95W.

I think AMD learned their lesson from that debacle.
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NEVER!
Thats AMD's only defense against Intel. "wait till bulldozer"
And its never coming out! MWAHAHAHAHA.

jk. Idk. but it has taken forever to come out.
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yeah.... I have heard a %30 performance increase over todays offerings as well as that the first gen ones will be am3 not am3+
No. BD is built from scratch and therefore requires a new socket in order to operate without any compromises. Look at the slide on the first page, BD is AM3+.
    
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"Maloney disclosed a new ultra-low-voltage Intel® Xeon® 3000 series processor featuring a TDP (Thermal Design Power) of only 30 watts.
They have 30 and 35W TDP parts out today that are focused on that market.

We do as well. We have a 35W TDP part with 6 cores. With bulldozer we will have 35W with 8 cores.

Theirs are all dual and quad right now. TDP is meaningless unless you also give the core count.
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Yah, but will it run crysis?


lol I have no idea why I typed that.

Thanks for keeping us updated JF and for providing us great info.
    
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You sound like a Intel fan boy.

Remember AMD used to produce better chips then "intel ever dream" if i were to use your sense of wording.
A lot has changed since the 90s
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