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Hey,
I am building a server and I had a concern which I will explain below the part list. The part list I am planning:

Link to newegg wishlist with the following info: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Pu...umber=10900129
  • 1 Generic DVD Burner Drive

My fear is the power supply not being enough. The case has a 850W PSU it seems, do you think that would be enough to power all of this? If not, whats my next best option for the build? I appreciate all comments, if you spot anything incompatible I would really appreciate it, spent a while looking it over, seems alright to me, wanted to double check with someone.

I was also wondering if this type of RAM was correct? Had some confusion on selecting the RAM.

Thanks for reading this thread. Will keep first post updated with new events/happenings.
Edited by Chopes - 1/6/11 at 3:45pm
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I think it's fine, your wishlist quantities are screwed up though. 850W should be more than plenty for that build.

Why were you confused about the ram? seems fine to me.

How will you install OS for the first time? Also if you're raiding those SSDs you may not get any trim support as the LSI controller won't support it and I think Intel only support trim on raid with the ich10r and ich9r. Also bear in mind that MLC drives such as the C300 aren't considered "enterprise" quality, if that matters, get the intel x25-e instead, however that drive doesn't support trim.
     
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What's this server for? I recommend the Dell Poweredge T710.
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I think it's fine, your wishlist quantities are screwed up though. 850W should be more than plenty for that build.

Why were you confused about the ram? seems fine to me.

How will you install OS for the first time? Also if you're raiding those SSDs you may not get any trim support as the LSI controller won't support it and I think Intel only support trim on raid with the ich10r and ich9r. Also bear in mind that MLC drives such as the C300 aren't considered "enterprise" quality, if that matters, get the intel x25-e instead, however that drive doesn't support trim.

Do you have any suggestions of an enterprise quality SSD with trim support that might work for?

EDIT: Did some digging and I think I am going to have a problem. Can anyone suggest a board with a good raid controler for SSDs that I can get a Raid 5+1 going with? I updated the first post with my updated build list. Added a few things I was missing like extra drives and a DVD bay so I can boot.
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Most raid controllers support ssds they just don't support trim. I believe the ocz vertex ex is slc and supports trim *if* you update it to the latest firmware. However no raid cards support trim yet, afaik only the ich9/10r controllers do which are probably not on server motherboards. However if you can do a secure erase on the drive every month and rewrite your data then you should be fine. I've been using ssds without trim support for nearly a year now, and while they're not as quick as they were, they're really not horribly slow either. I wish I had some benchmarks to really show though.

The other option is to use software raid of the kind supported by linux or osx, however linux only supports limited forms of trim on the latest kernels. If you're going with the ich9/10r or software raid then you should go with raid 10 as they won't handle the parity well. But ssds are generally better off with 10 rather than 5 anyway as they are slow to write than read, so unless you're reading a lot more than writing than you're better off balancing the faster read of the ssd with the faster write of raid 10.
     
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Most raid controllers support ssds they just don't support trim. I believe the ocz vertex ex is slc and supports trim *if* you update it to the latest firmware. However no raid cards support trim yet, afaik only the ich9/10r controllers do which are probably not on server motherboards. However if you can do a secure erase on the drive every month and rewrite your data then you should be fine. I've been using ssds without trim support for nearly a year now, and while they're not as quick as they were, they're really not horribly slow either. I wish I had some benchmarks to really show though.

The other option is to use software raid of the kind supported by linux or osx, however linux only supports limited forms of trim on the latest kernels. If you're going with the ich9/10r or software raid then you should go with raid 10 as they won't handle the parity well. But ssds are generally better off with 10 rather than 5 anyway as they are slow to write than read, so unless you're reading a lot more than writing than you're better off balancing the faster read of the ssd with the faster write of raid 10.
Hey, seems like you know a bit about controllers and such, could you link a high end board that supports trim? There has to be SOME server mobo that supports it surely?
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I'm honestly not too familiar with the server boards but the supermicro boards seem to use the ich10r southbridge so they should be fine. Just bear in mind the ich10r isn't going to have the processing power to do raid 5, so you'd have to go with raid 10:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=Intel%205520#

Again none of this matters though if your OS doesn't support TRIM
     
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I'm honestly not too familiar with the server boards but the supermicro boards seem to use the ich10r southbridge so they should be fine. Just bear in mind the ich10r isn't going to have the processing power to do raid 5, so you'd have to go with raid 10:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007629%2050001655%20600007999%20600008549&IsNodeId=1&name=Intel%205520#

Again none of this matters though if your OS doesn't support TRIM

I plan to be running Windows Server 2008 R2 x64 which is listed as having TRIM support so I should be ok there I think yes? That board looks interesting will take a look at it when I get home.
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Yeah I guess it should then. One more thing, if the x5680 comes with the same heatsink as the 980x you may want to double check if it will fit in that server case as it looks fairly low profile?
     
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Why not an sr-2 and some quatro fx's?
    
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