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post #11 of 19
SR-2 may not fit in that case (it's only rated for EATX). SR-2 is great if you want to overclock, if you're building a real server then you probably don't want to overclock and may as well as save the money and get some better "server" features. Also if you're looking to expand the SR-2 isn't rated for 192GB of memory as it only seems to support 96GB from what I've read. All depends on what the OP wants.
     
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Originally Posted by stren;11928664 
SR-2 may not fit in that case (it's only rated for EATX). SR-2 is great if you want to overclock, if you're building a real server then you probably don't want to overclock and may as well as save the money and get some better "server" features. Also if you're looking to expand the SR-2 isn't rated for 192GB of memory as it only seems to support 96GB from what I've read. All depends on what the OP wants.

Yeah, I am not looking to be overclocking or anything of that nature as it would be in a business environment and stability is key tongue.gif.

Right now my huge issue is trying to find a motherboard that will let me dual lga 1366 while having a decent raid controller so I can do raid 0 for example and have trim support (under the impression there isnt trim support for standalone cards, only a few of the intel mobs).

Any help on that would be much appreciated.
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You can't have raid and trim. There's no way. You could though get two Crucial C300s and raid them. The c300s as I've heard have a great garbage control. What's the server going to be for though?
    
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Incorrect:
http://www.overclock.net/software-ne...trim-raid.html

Garbage control is an OCZ thing afaik that was their solution before they had trim support .




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You can't have raid and trim. There's no way. You could though get two Crucial C300s and raid them. The c300s as I've heard have a great garbage control. What's the server going to be for though?
     
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Originally Posted by stren;11930721 
Incorrect:
http://www.overclock.net/software-news/694625-intel-trim-raid.html

Garbage control is an OCZ thing afaik that was their solution before they had trim support .

Hrm, so what are my options since its not realistic to use the SSD without this....
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Hrm, so what are my options since its not realistic to use the SSD without this....
You could just get a really big single ssd.
    
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Your options are:

1. RAID 10 with SSD + Trim using ICH10R

Pro's: Supports trim
Con's: It's not the best raid controller, but it'll still be pretty fast, just don't try any fancy parity raid.

2. RAID 5/10/Whatever with SSD using a good card (for example that Areca you picked out)

Pro's: Will be really fast to start with
Con's: To maintain uber speed you'll need to do a secure erase on the drives every so often (note if you have a card that can rebuild the array on the fly and you can hotswap the drives, then you can do this with no down time, take the drive out, plug it in as esata, secure erase, and pop it back in the server - if you do this, probably best to have at least 2 drive redundancy in case you lose a drive while you're erasing)

3. No Raid SSD with trim

Pro's - easy + cheap
Con's - not as fast, not as reliable (no redundancy)

4. Raid 5/10/Whatever with SAS drives

Pro's: No trim required
Con's: Not as fast as ssd, (but that areca card has so much cache maybe it's not a problem), heavier, more power etc

Note that if you have redundancy you can get away with MLC drives, as long as you're not using the array as a 24/7 data centre type of deal.
     
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You could just get a really big single ssd.
To be honest for a server I'd take redundancy with no trim vs one drive with trim. In my experience the slow down without trim really isn't too bad. Still faster than a regular HD.
     
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Garbage control is an OCZ thing afaik that was their solution before they had trim support .
I was wrong on this one, a lost of drives have GC in the background, I think I was thinking of the wiper.exe program that OCZ used to have before trim.

Anandtech did a comparison of the C300 with only garbage collection and with trim:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3812/t...realssd-c300/8

The intereseting part is at the end: "Not exactly a drastic improvement. The idle GC just isn’t very aggressive. Compared to what Indilinx and SandForce have done, Crucial’s implementation just doesn’t cut it. For Windows 7 users running a single drive this shouldn't matter since you have TRIM. But if you're running RAID or another OS, the C300 isn't as desirable."

So maybe for look at some different drives if you're going without trim?
     
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