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Ok, check this run out. using same setting's as op, ( and btw pioneer, dont adjust setting's in NCP. let the gmae configure itself.)

u do not have a bottlneck, i would u have an issue with game setting's.. or something like that. u should however get 40fps easily.



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I never use the Control Panel to adjust settings. I always max things in game, and if the option isn't there....boo hoo. I don't like messing with the Control Panel to adjust my game settings.

So this just proves it. I should have bought a 6870 then.
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northern island's perform better in crysis then FERMI. the table's usually turn in game's like metro 2033 or 3dmark vantage.

These card's are faasst. but stil...


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I never use the Control Panel to adjust settings. I always max things in game, and if the option isn't there....boo hoo. I don't like messing with the Control Panel to adjust my game settings.

So this just proves it. I should have bought a 6870 then.
    
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The only thing I've done to the game, was installed the "Real Lifesys" mod, which has NEVER hurt performance for me in the past. So I don't think its doing so now either. Otherwise, its just regular old Crysis, patched to 1.21.

And the entire reason I made this jump, was to max out Crysis and GTA IV. I still can't do either (although closer now). Any other games I play, I didn't have any issues with the 4890 honestly.
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Since its patched with a Mod we cant really compare with our setups. Also for me Mods always have drop my fps in Crysis. One other thins is when i moved from HD 5850 to GTX470 i failed to see how GTX470 was faster and in this is tested like SC2, Crysis, 3DMark Vantage HD 5850 was faster. Do you have any other games toy can test?
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Since its patched with a Mod we cant really compare with our setups. Also for me Mods always have drop my fps in Crysis. One other thins is when i moved from HD 5850 to GTX470 i failed to see how GTX470 was faster and in this is tested like SC2, Crysis, 3DMark Vantage HD 5850 was faster. Do you have any other games toy can test?
See, that's my entire problem too. I'm not really feeling like this was much of an upgrade over my 4890. Even though it clearly SHOULD have been.

And yeah, I've got a bunch of games and stuff I could test.

Crysis and GTA IV are both noticeably faster with the 470...AFTER its overclocked. I still can't max them though. All of my other games though, I maxed out just fine with the 4890. 3DMark Vantage definitely shows improvement (18k GPU vs. 13k). I dunno.
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See, that's my entire problem too. I'm not really feeling like this was much of an upgrade over my 4890. Even though it clearly SHOULD have been.

And yeah, I've got a bunch of games and stuff I could test.

Crysis and GTA IV are both noticeably faster with the 470...AFTER its overclocked. I still can't max them though. All of my other games though, I maxed out just fine with the 4890. 3DMark Vantage definitely shows improvement (18k GPU vs. 13k). I dunno.
might sound odd, but try another pci slot.
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See, that's my entire problem too. I'm not really feeling like this was much of an upgrade over my 4890. Even though it clearly SHOULD have been.

And yeah, I've got a bunch of games and stuff I could test.

Crysis and GTA IV are both noticeably faster with the 470...AFTER its overclocked. I still can't max them though. All of my other games though, I maxed out just fine with the 4890. 3DMark Vantage definitely shows improvement (18k GPU vs. 13k). I dunno.
GTAIV is 100% purley CPU based GPU's barely have an effect on the game.

Although I think your Crysis scores are about right.

I get 40FPS average at your res with same settings so I'm pretty sure you were expecting too much.
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GTAIV is 100% purley CPU based GPU's barely have an effect on the game.

Although I think your Crysis scores are about right.

I get 40FPS average at your res with same settings so I'm pretty sure you were expecting too much.
Well, like I said, GTA IV is NOTICEABLY faster. 30-40 FPS average in game, using maxed-ish settings. Shaders on "High" instead of "Very High", and the sliders at 75 / 75 / 100. Otherwise maxed. My 4890 could pull off all High settings, sliders at 25 / 25 / 50.

I was just expecting 40+ FPS in Crysis with 16x AA, and maxed GTA IV completely. This is what I was told the 470 could do. Oh well.
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Well, like I said, GTA IV is NOTICEABLY faster. 30-40 FPS average in game, using maxed-ish settings. Shaders on "High" instead of "Very High", and the sliders at 75 / 75 / 100. Otherwise maxed. My 4890 could pull off all High settings, sliders at 25 / 25 / 50.

I was just expecting 40+ FPS in Crysis with 16x AA, and maxed GTA IV completely. This is what I was told the 470 could do. Oh well.
Pioneerisloud, with all due respect, your expectations in Crysis were outlandish. In 2008 I built this system in my signature to max Crysis. It took me three GPUs and an i7 at 4ghz. In fact, I am downright obsessed with Crysis and benching it and would be glad to shed some light onto your situation.

Firstly, as you stated, there is NO CPU bottleneck. A core 2 duo at 2Ghz won’t bottleneck even a gtx580 in this bench. However, this is a completely different case for two GPUs (A long story, but won’t go into it). If you would like evidence, I can go and find the links to prove this to you. But, since you realized this yourself, I thought I would just confirm your finding.

Secondly, the mod you installed WILL affect Crysis. Granted, you may not have noticed with your past card, but that statement means nothing because that’s not quantitative the way you expressed it. From a logical and technological stand point, that MOD is adding more things for your card to render.

Thirdly, I understand your grief over seeing your 4890 match your 470. Let me clear this up for you. It is known that the Fermi-architecture did not do that well in Crysis. One would think the doubling of shaders would have a linear increase on FPS, but in this case, it does not. Otherwise three Fermis would be sitting in my computer now. But the sad story is, I can match 2x480’s with no AA, even though the shader count is 720 versus 960. Additionally, it is well documented the 4890’s were amazing with high levels of AA enabled and high video memory usage. Both scenarios apply to the benches you have done. You are experiencing the perfect scenario for your 4890 to shine, and you are underlining the problems of the gtx470. I would be inclined to say that your overclocks on the gtx470 show how un-optimized the core to memory clocks are and is why the new Nvidia cards are increasing the clocks across the board(think the rumored gtx560 and up).

So in summation, your new card is better, but you will have to adjust the clocks to get the best out of the architecture. And if you want a fair comparison, take off that ridiculous amount of AA and MOD. You will see that your investment was not in vein. Goodluck and I hope this helped!
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