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Hey,
I am looking for some help on selecting a raid card. My entire build is flexible at the moment, so I was wondering if anyone could suggest a raid card for this motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131373 that I can use with some SSDs to put in raid 5+1? Looking for suggestions both on the controller as well as the SSDs themselves (looking at 5x128GB drives right now, suggest anything tho).

Note: I was forewarned to stay away from fake hardware raid controllers that are actually software raid so please keep this in mind.

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feel free to reccomend him good SSDs too
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so I was wondering if anyone could suggest a raid card for this motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131373
I just gotta ask...why that MB?

What are you planning on doing?
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Note: I was forewarned to stay away from fake hardware raid controllers that are actually software raid so please keep this in mind.
fakeRAID and software RAID are not the same - decent software RAID is much superior, and systems can easily be built to exceed the performance of even the best dedicated controllers.

What on earth do you want to put SSDs in RAID5 for anyway?
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Originally Posted by the_beast;11926589 
fakeRAID and software RAID are not the same - decent software RAID is much superior, and systems can easily be built to exceed the performance of even the best dedicated controllers.

What on earth do you want to put SSDs in RAID5 for anyway?

How can you tell the difference between fakeRAID and a good software RAID? Can you give a few examples?

Is it possible to have maybe 1 array with 4-5 SSDS in RAID 1 and then have regular hard drives for backups recognized as well and secure my data that way?
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How can you tell the difference between fakeRAID and a good software RAID? Can you give a few examples?

Is it possible to have maybe 1 array with 4-5 SSDS in RAID 1 and then have regular hard drives for backups recognized as well and secure my data that way?
If your RAID card doesn't have a heatsink or onboard RAM, chances are it's fakeRAID (although there are some exceptions, but only for non-parity capable cards). If it's built in to a consumer grade mobo (and most workstation and server boards too) then it's fakeRAID.

If your software RAID is linux or unix based then it's decent, if it's Windows then it's crap.

Why would you want 4-5 SSDs in RAID1? You can do this with *nix software RAID, but it's pretty pointless (and very expensive). Or do you mean RAID0? If so then that is definitely possible - but again a little pointless as the real-world performance will be very similar to setups using much fewer drives.
Edited by the_beast - 1/7/11 at 2:24pm
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i just gotta ask...why that mb?

What are you planning on doing?
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post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by the_beast;11928082 
If your RAID card doesn't have a heatsink or onboard RAM, chances are it's fakeRAID (although there are some exceptions, but only for non-parity capable cards). If it's built in to a consumer grade mobo (and most workstation and server boards too) then it's fakeRAID.

If your software RAID is linux or unix based then it's decent, if it's Windows then it's crap.

Why would you want 4-5 SSDs in RAID1? You can do this with *nix software RAID, but it's pretty pointless (and very expensive). Or do you mean RAID0? If so then that is definitely possible - but again a little pointless as the real-world performance will be very similar to setups using much fewer drives.

I meant to say 0 sorry. But yeah, how would I get similar performance using less drives? Are you saying getting larger sized drives and just get less of them with Raid0?
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Originally Posted by Old Hippie;11928167 
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Right now I am back to square one with the build, getting massivly confused with RAID controllers for SSDs lol. I have no attachment to the mobo as long as I can run dual 1366 and have a sizeable amount of ram on there.

Trying to figure out what I can do for trim support though as from my understanding these RAID controller cards don't have trim support.
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possibly fewer larger drives, but often fewer drives anyway will give better results as there is less overhead - for example 3 drives on an ICH10R can hit 750MB/s, but 6 will only manage ~500MB/s.

Until we know what you intend to do, there is very little we can recommend. It's not just a case of throwing together expensive hardware - you need to think about what you're trying to achieve with it...
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Originally Posted by the_beast;11934414 
possibly fewer larger drives, but often fewer drives anyway will give better results as there is less overhead - for example 3 drives on an ICH10R can hit 750MB/s, but 6 will only manage ~500MB/s.

Until we know what you intend to do, there is very little we can recommend. It's not just a case of throwing together expensive hardware - you need to think about what you're trying to achieve with it...

Its going to be used as a multi-purpose server so theres no one specific thing it will be used for. It will be doing lots of calculations and oracle database read/writes but will be moved around for other purposes down the line, thats why I am trying to get a general idea.
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