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post #3051 of 10523
Losing CUDA support? Well that's certainly bizarre. I swear the 5xx series has been a friggin' mess. 570's burning out at stock speeds and catching on fire at OC'd speeds, 580's having strange shutdown issues, and 590's using inferior parts and literally burning up on stock speeds. Glad I stuck with the 4xx series and just stuck a third card into the system to keep up with the new cards
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I hear you! My 460's can do 950 core under water all day long. At least the 580's dont blow up like the 570's and 590's cause of the vrms.
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Yeah James and I actually talking right now about how bad it is that Nvidia's flagship product, the 590, has just been a disaster with so many burning up and cheap VRM's being identified as the primary cause. This is one of the reasons that I tend to wait six months or so before I buy products. I like to see what happens to everyone else first lol.
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How stupid can you be to design something at such a high price point and skimp on possibly the most important component on the whole pcb? It begs the question did they even freakin test it? For all the flak the initial Fermi cards got my 4xx series cards have been rock solid stable and have had no issues at all.
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I don't see why they would cheap out on the VRM's on the 570 & 590.
Where as the 560 & 580 isn't effected.
post #3056 of 10523
I was going to get 2 590's but I'm too paranoid to worry about if they can take the abuse they are going to get. I like to over volt and overclock too much to have anything fragile in my computer. They cant even pump more PPD than a pair of GTX 570's. Its just sad.
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post #3057 of 10523
yeah forget the 590's.. the wait for kepler begins lol
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Hopefully customers will punish them for their poor decisions/designs and AMD will get some much deserved praise for their dual-gpu flagship the 6990 as its VRMs were done right.

590 = 4 phase VRM with 35A mosfets for a max theoretical load of 140A max.
6990 = 6 phase VRM with 80A mosfets for a max theoretical load of 480A max.

Clearly the engineers need a good slapping for this one. I really liked what Phaedrus said on the matter:

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It would have been trivial to beef up the VRMs on the GTX590. Replace the 35A DrMOS chips with a pair of 50A mosfets and a driver, beef up the inductor, and they'd need to use a dedicated controller and add their own sense circuitry. Nothing that they don't know how to do, they've done it every time they design a new card. They could probably lift the design from an existing card and just tweak it with higher rated components and some different controller settings. 20hrs work + testing, tops. They could even do it with a Volterra solution to make it even easier and arguably more reliable.

But that would cost about 3x more per phase than the solution they went with--5x for Volterra. At some point the engineers, or the engineers' bosses, said "Ok, we need to make this cheaper, and we need it fast. Let's start over using the cheapest DrMOS solution we can get our hands on."
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i wonder what kind of ppd the 6990 gets now that ati client is out
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6990 isn't supported yet. ;p
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