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post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by Bal3Wolf;11922349 
How safe is that really wont it never leave your loop iv heard of people trying that and never able to get it all out of their loop.

iv been watercooling for years. MANY MANY configurations. use a drop EVERY TIME, and never any issues. of course i run distilled/pt nuke only. iv been on this same D5 pump now for ~4yrs. no issues.

proof
Edited by l4n b0y - 1/7/11 at 2:11am
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post #12 of 20
glad to know lol i got a d5 for my loop in a xspc res it was a pain to bleed till i figured out they tell you on the ddc pump to tilt foward and it worked on the d5 to.

I decided what the heck im gonna try a little dawn and it does work wonders cleaning out bubbles i put some in a cup and used a pocket knife to scoop very little up and drop in the res and after a few secs the bubbles started to disapeer in my res.
Edited by Bal3Wolf - 1/7/11 at 3:45am
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Dawn? Should I try it?....just titled machine forward...no luck
Edited by Theory - 1/7/11 at 11:34am
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Quote:
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Dawn? Should I try it?....just titled machine forward...no luck

Yes, it's brilliant. You will wish you tried it earlier.
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Originally Posted by raul-7;11926178 
yes, it's brilliant. You will wish you tried it earlier.
To the kitchen!, Now how long does it take?
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post #16 of 20
it will work out after 2-3 days, if not shake the pc wildy till it does
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Ok well the soap did absolutely nothing...I guess I just have to wait and if not shake it wildly.
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post #18 of 20
Shake helps but if you tilt your case back you will see how bog air bubbles start going up towards reservoir. After doing that all bubbles were gone with 30 sec after turning pump on again. I wishes I tried it sooner when I was filling it up, so it took me like 15 min to remove all bubbles.
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post #19 of 20
Sounds like cavitation happening with the pump. That is, the loop is too restrictive for the pump to properly draw enough fluid and vapor bubbles actually form. Rotating 90 degrees shows that gravity can have a small effect to reduce the noise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavitation

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Image above shows an impeller much like the MCP350/355 D4/D5 MCP655 pumps ...

Images below are like the Ehiem and other types.
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Suction Cavitation occurs when the pump suction is under a low pressure/high vacuum condition where the liquid turns into a vapor at the eye of the pump impeller. This vapor is carried over to the discharge side of the pump where it no longer sees vacuum and is compressed back into a liquid by the discharge pressure. This imploding action occurs violently and attacks the face of the impeller. An impeller that has been operating under a suction cavitation condition has large chunks of material removed from its face causing premature failure of the pump.

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Discharge Cavitation occurs when the pump discharge is extremely high. It normally occurs in a pump that is running at less than 10% of its best efficiency point. The high discharge pressure causes the majority of the fluid to circulate inside the pump instead of being allowed to flow out the discharge. As the liquid flows around the impeller it must pass through the small clearance between the impeller and the pump cutwater at extremely high velocity. This velocity causes a vacuum to develop at the cutwater similar to what occurs in a venturi and turns the liquid into a vapor. A pump that has been operating under these conditions shows premature wear of the impeller vane tips and the pump cutwater. In addition due to the high pressure condition premature failure of the pump mechanical seal and bearings can be expected and under extreme conditions will break the impeller shaft.

Try to reroute the loop or remove the loop restrictions. wink.gif
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post #20 of 20
Lol a lot of reading, but that was happening with my loop untill I tilted it and made the bubbles go out.
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